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We need a passenger/tourist revolt against full body scanners

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Update: Several groups are calling for an Opt-Out day on the day before Thanksgiving, Wednesday, November 24, 2010. More information is at wewontfly.com

____________________

Kimberly writes:

I am serious. I would never, ever expose myself to radiation in order to go on some vacation, or even a trip to see a relative. And, as a NY Times story (covered at Yahoo! News) reported, if you do not let airport security do the full body x-ray, they make you do a full body pat down. Some choice! Obama and Homeland Security can pat themselves down. Their TSA goons ain’t touching my body every time I want to take a trip. I will stay home. Stay home and write nasty blogs and e-mails about them to spread around the world.

If you thought this was something different than x-rays, think again. Here is a story at the Seattle Times that states the case.

If you thought it was okay to just relax, and assume that this will pass, or won’t be at an airport near you soon, you should think again. The NY Times story says of these scanners, “About 500 should be online by the end of the year, the agency said, and another 500 are expected to be installed next year. Ultimately, the agency plans to have the new machines replace metal detectors at all of the roughly 2,000 airport checkpoints.”

Merry Christmas! Have some low-dose radiation, because making you walk in your stocking feet wasn’t harmful and humiliating enough.

How can the American people allow security people to decide how much radiation is good for them? Reports just came out that doctors may have been striking the wrong balance between the need for medical tests, and the exposure to radiation that x-rays cause. These airport scanners admittedly use x-ray technology. They use x-ray technology on your body, with no medical personnel there to monitor it.

Look at this article from Harvard. Even doctors misjudged the use of radiation. X-rays are so dangerous, that it might not always be worth it to use them, even to prevent disease. So, why is it worth it for a trip to Disney Land?

With a little help from radiation, doctors can examine the heart and even clear clogged arteries without ever opening the chest. But there can be a price to pay for these advances, reports the April 2009 issue of the Harvard Heart Letter. Exposure to radiation can damage DNA and lead to uncontrolled cell division, the hallmark of cancer. The delicate balance between benefit and risk demands the judicious use of radiation for diagnosing and treating disease… – Harvard Health Publications

ABC at least has a story considering if these devices are dangerous. The story is a starting point to reflect on this technology.

What can you do?

If you have airline tickets, please use your consumer clout to stop this injustice. Just once, call up, and ask if you will have to face a full body scanner (ie: face it or have a pat-down). If they say YES, just this once, could you cancel your trip?

American Airlines pilots think it is important enough to take a stand. See the article “American Airlines pilots in revolt” at The Atlantic.

Other options:

-Boycott air travel. Let the companies know you are boycotting. (Or, book a cruise or train trip instead.)

-If you have to go to an airport with a scanner, you should probably skip the radiation, and take the horrible, civil-rights violating, human rights violating, pat-down they are trying to make you think is “your cheery choice”. But, at least burp or fart while they pat you down or something. (I never thought in my activist/political career, I would advise people to fart. But, desperate times call for desperate measure.)

-Try to find a group, political party, or lobbyist organization that you can support to help you fight the cause. An article at The Register UK points to a group called Electronic Privacy Information Center from DC that is raising concerns about full body scanners.

-Think about ways to engage your own medical professionals, doctor organizations, or public health organizations to come out against this needless application of low-dose radiation to the American people.

This is a humiliation happening to all of the American people. This is an affront to our civil liberties. It is an attempt to control our movements and air travel much like happened in the Soviet Union. Although, at least I don’t think that the Soviets tried to irradiate the citizenry. This is serious. What can you do to help stop full body x-ray scanners at airports?

___________________________________

More ways to activate on this issue:

There is a FACEBOOK page that EPIC recommends which is a coalition of people working against the full body scanner program.

You can go to:

http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=239458517874

EPIC has a lawsuit to stop the body scanners.

Click on the EPIC report form below to report body scanner incidents you have encountered:

http://epic.org/bodyscanner/incident_report/

Also, the ACLU/American Civil Liberties Union is looking into the matter. They have a questionnaire (which reveals possible concerns), and a way for you to contact them with your incident reports at:

https://secure.aclu.org/site/SSurvey?&ACTION_REQUIRED=URI_ACTION_USER_REQUESTS&SURVEY_ID=1440

173 Responses

  1. this is scary crap. the body scan also takes a full picture, a FULL picture.

  2. No need to boycott. There’s a really simple solution to end this full body scan nonsense: everybody opt out.

    A pat down only takes 2 to 3 minutes longer than standing in the scanner, so you aren’t really losing much time. If everybody opts out, it send a huge message to the suits.

    Plus, it really annoys those TSA clowns. >:)

    • I shouldn’t have to tolerate a pat down or ANY scanning of my body ( especially from toxic radiation, and yes it IS TOXIC!) To fly in my own country. Its a violation civil and of amendment rights, it’s unreasonable search and seizure. My own partner doesn’t grope me down like the last TSA pimply ‘security guard’. If you don’t want to support this Nazi style Gestapo tactics, DON’T FLY. I haven’t flown since 2004. I take the train or drive now. The gas is comparable to the tickets, and yes, it might take a day or two longer, but my integrity is in tacked and I don’t have to be violated by strangers.

      These tactics of pat downs and scanners aren’t for “terrorist” they’re to keep Americans afraid and suspicious of every one EXCEPT the government.

      If you keep tolerating this behaviour you will end up with a chip on he back of your hand like a common dog.

      • It’s not like that. They don’t want to make you fell uncomfortable or to keep you scared. The truth is: there ARE TERRORIST WHO WANT TO GET ON PLANES AND KILL YOU. I’m really sorry that you feel that this isn’t neccesary, but every once in a while a terrorist is caught. Usually, they aren’t. But this is because they are scared of getting caught since security is so good.

        They can go ahead and stop having all these safety precautions, but then a terrorist could easily walk on to a plane and kill lots of people.

        so how about this: You stop complaining about the few minutes taken out of your life and slight personal envasion that occurs, and THANK the security team for hleping to keep you alive while on that plane.

        • Dear Adi,

          Thank you for your perspective.

          Clearly, the fact that something must be done to be careful of people taking explosives on planes is part of the argument. It is taken for granted.

          I think it would be good to have some statistics about how many times these devices have actually come up with weapons. Statistics would help to steer people to better solutions.

          My guess is that, whatever security system is devised, terrorists will figure out a way to work around. So, that maybe the best system is one that is flexible, random, changing, with some surprise. Not every person going through an x-ray.

          Also, there are always the big questions about how to make our culture safer:

          Pay security companies for more and more expensive technology. Screen and affect every person and citizen.

          vs.

          Bigger themes such as creating more justice and peace, so that there is less terrorism. Having a government that uses their smarts to create useful, effective, and less intrusive security systems.

          So, yes. We need security at airports.

          But, the present system of an x-ray or full body pat down for all passengers (and evidently all pilots) does not seem to be the best answer.

          • While I find it incredibly awkward to have a pat-down, or be in that situation, I don’t really think it’s that bad. It’s a pat-down. Not a full body cavity search. Yes, sure, they run their hands over your body, but it really is not a reason to avoid flying.
            As for the radiation, unless America does it differently, you have to walk through the scanner for a maximum of two seconds. Three if you linger. The rays are not strong. They can’t pick up bones, just those hard objects such as metal.
            YEAHRIGHT commented that cellular phones have more radiation than the airport scanners, and they’re very muchly so correct. You might want to back down a little bit, as there is no point getting worked up about nothing.

            Your choice, however.

          • I really like this article and appreciate all the information! Yes, violation of privacy is a huge matter and it disturbs me greatly. But what is even more menacing is the health risk associated with backscatter machines. Check out the health risks of just using CAT-scans – it all comes with a risk, especially to children and infants. If someone fly’s often with kids – this could be a major health problem in 20 years.

        • I do not see this is a slight personal evasion, especially not in America. The problem isn’t that the security measures are there to increase security and keep terrorists off. The problem is that if they really wanted to make airports more secure, they would find places, say Israel, that have a very good air port security and mimic them. Not subject people to more security, longer lines, and more annoyances at the airport.

        • Way to feed the hype buddy. Go ignorance!

        • I am with you,my friend.. I would take a pat-down anytime to avoid allowing any terrorist to get aboard any plane that I would be flying on.. To all of you Idiots who want neither a pat-down nor a body scan…There is Bus and Train Service.

    • Not good enough for me.

      I don’t think every American who wants to travel within or outside of their country deserves a full body pat down.

    • These full body scanners being introduced in airports nationwide are manufactured by Rapiscan Systems, a firm represented by the Chertoff Group. The Chertoff Group is Michael Chertoff, a dual Israeli/US citizen appointed Secretary of Homeland Security in 2005 by Puppet President George W. Bush.

      http://moraloutrage.wordpress.com/2010/11/06/where-to-direct-your-complaints-about-full-body-scanners/

  3. I wouldn’t want the full body scan but I also do not want to be touched. Your basically damned if you do and damned if you don’t

    http://www.runtobefit.wordpress.com

  4. Well, I’m in Toronto Canada so I’m not sure if something like this will arrive at our international airport. That being said, if it does you can bet your sweet ass I’m not getting into a super sized microwave. News flash, radiation is not good, even is small doses. Why intentionally expose yourself. I’m not surprised that Pilots refuse to enter those things. If I flew 2-3 times a week I’d probably be just counting down the days till I sit and talk with an oncologist.

    #@$HOLES!

  5. Here in Brazil I do not know about any body scan, but I would never expose myself to radiation and this kind of humiliation, even if it’s because of a business trip. They (Governments all around the world) are trying to convince us that we’re nothing but shit. Nothing but a thing they can control and manipulate anywhere and anytime. We need to resist. Good post.

  6. Hear hear! We are not safer by going through these new machines. How are they justifying letting kids go through these things, anyway? Too bad George Carlin isn’t around anymore. I’d love to hear what he’d say about this..

    http://tehcatspajamas.wordpress.com/

    • LOL! I think you should write the George Carlin routine, yourself.

      Or, at least, make a David Letterman “Top Ten Reasons Not To Use Air Travel” or something…

      ;)

      Thanks for the comment, capnstephel

      • 10. With everyone avoiding the checked bag fees, there’s no room to put your trombone in the overhead compartment
        9. Then again, you had to disassemble the thing while you were going through security
        8. Not enough parachutes
        7. There aren’t any crazy tourist stops floating around the clouds

        ..ummm…someone else add some others

  7. No, we don’t. Scan me, search my bag, whatever. I have no bombs, no guns, no agenda.

    • Well put. It’s when something tragic happens that the same people who hate security checks become the biggest advocates. It’s a part of life we all have to live with. Deal with it or just don’t travel is what I say.

      • For a ‘ZEN Assassin,’ you don’t seem to know anything about being zen, or an ‘assassin’ because neither types would put up with this.

        What was the last ‘tragic’ thing that happened? If you are going to make grouse assumptions you need to back it.
        And why should we just ‘deal with it’? Should the Jews have tolerated the stars on their jackets? Because that was one of the first steps.
        Wear the star or die…deal with it.

        I’m shocked that some how you think draconian scare tactics on the average American is acceptable?

        Do you HONESTLY think this is making a difference? Lets see the fruit Zen Ass.:)

        • It’s awesome that you equate airline security to Nazi tactics. What exactly do you propose as a solution or do you just troll posts trying to get a rise out of people with your blinding ignorance?

          • My blinding ignorance? Considering I know a great deal about Governmental and Military scare tactics I’d say I’m seeing pretty clear. And yes, I want a rise, I want to see a mob of Americans standing up and saying ” Fuck you! I will no longer be treated like sheep and pushed to the slaughter.” You should be asking yourself…”why aren’t you angry?” Or are you a troll for ‘Da man…”

        • Leaving aside “grouse assumptions” (because a grouse is a bird, or a complaint…Ooops, I didn’t leave it…) I can’t back off from Americans saying Americans shouldn’t put up with draconian scare tactics. Not in the country where they enacted laws to prevent one group of people mixing with another based on skin colour. Was that part of the constitution? Are you going to tell me there weren’t terrible scare stories about what the nasty blacks would do to the country if they got the vote, or rode in the front of the bus? America is always banging on about freedom and the right to do this or that, but the fact remains that only South Africa held on to racist legislation longer, and I still bet there are parts of America where being black is the biggest disadvantage you could have.
          You seem to be saying that governments get something out of keeping you scared of terrorists. Well, maybe, if you believe the government is doing the right thing to combat them, you’d vote for ’em. Don’t believe ’em? Vote for someone else. No one saying the things you want to hear? Stand for election yourself. THAT’s your right.

          • LOL!

            D Trasler:

            Thanks for your comment. I love it. And, I hope it stands as a wake up call and preach to all of us, and all the readers.

            I just wanted to share that…

            I have voted for other people. And, I have run for office!

            So, we are on the same page. And, I am not just the regular do-nothing complainer!

            Peace and struggle,
            Kimberly Wilder
            former candidate for NY State Senate
            former candidate for Suffolk County Legislature
            campaign volunteer and support for candidates for: NY Governor, US Senate, and President

        • You’ve stated elsewhere in response to some of these comments that you haven’t flown since 2004. So you’re doing exactly what ZA suggested you do – deal with it or don’t travel. You don’t want to deal with it, so you don’t travel. Perhaps you can offer some suggestions on how Americans can avoid losing other civil liberties that have been stripped from them and thrown aside due to the Patriot Act, rather than attacking people who have decided that since they have nothing to hide, they’re okay with the security measures being taken.

  8. […] Kimberly writes: I am serious. I would never, ever expose myself to radiation in order to go on some vacation, or even a trip to see a relative. And, as a NY Times story (covered at Yahoo! News) reported, if you do not let airport security do the full body x-ray, they make you do a full body pat down. Some choice! Obama and Homeland Security can pat themselves d … Read More […]

  9. Your blowing up, way out of proportion, of this issue is really hindering any reasonable debate.

    Firstly to respond to the above comment, a pat down does not take 2-3 minutes, it takes 1 at the most. They are also not intrusive, so what if a stranger pats down your arms and legs, they don’t cup your balls or fondle you. They just make sure you’re not hiding anything under your top or in your trousers.
    When I’m travelling in a huge aluminium tube 30,00ft up in the air, I’m quite glad to think that the people I’m with have been checked for these sorts of things.

    These scanners, surely are better than this? So what if a stranger sees a ghostly image of your body in a different room? The article you linked to states that they are programmed to delete the image immeadiately after it’s been seen. The worker isn’t going to be sat but naked leering over them all. They’re not going to be stored on some vast government server so that they can be used to blackmail you.
    No, it’s going to be a simple look, and then that’s it.

    • Hahahahahahhaha. I love the ignorant. Thanks for a good old’e fashioned chuckle. Ahh I needed that.

    • Umm…anytime a strange starts patting you up or down…you never know what might happen next.

      Nothing is fool proof. Especially humans.

      Terrorists are usually not so stupid as to hide something that a pat down would find.

      These security measures are not well-thought out, and effective. These security measures are ways to make people feel a vague sense of terror, and to make security companies profit — with little result.

  10. I’d rather have someone touch my junk than give it cancer.

  11. well you cannot really be surprised taht they dont worry about our humiliation, more than half america walks around being fat, and they dont seem to mind, it kinda grosses me out but im friends with soem overweight people and they are actually trying to lose weight, we set ourselves up for this, we have to show them that we care about our image not only at the airport, but on everything we do in order to prevent these kinds of things from happening

    • What does this have to do with being civilly violated against our will in airports?

      “we have to show them that we care about our image not only at the airport, but on everything we do in order to prevent these kinds of things from happening”

      Are you serious?
      Self Image and civil rights are NOT the same thing.

      And Americans are over weight because of the processed foods you eat the increases in work and school days, the lack of access to clean healthy food and water. Do your home work.

      http://www.naturalhealth.org

      It’s precisely people like you is WHY we have full body scanners, rape like pat downs and a declining overall country intelligence.

      How much T.V do you watch?

      • The part about protecting someone’s image is an interesting piece from this discussion.

        I am not saying that giving someone a bad image is part of violating someone’s civil rights. But, I suppose if taking shoes off or going through security makes someone feel humiliated by looking bad or low in public, that could be some of it.

        I think the part that emphasized image and how it looks was more the argument that the pilots were making. The letter from the pilots association, at the Atlantic link, shows that pilots think it is indignant for uniformed workers with high clearance to have to be subjected to pat downs.

        But, I guess, for regular Americans, our country must balance “pre-crime” and screenings, that inconvenience everyone and injure their privacy with any legitimate security concerns. And, the point is that the balance now stinks.

        I think it is important to study the usefulness of these measures. Does it really help? Or, do the bad guys find ways around it?

        If our government focused more on other and better crime detection methods, would we be safer? And, could our airports and skies still be safe, without having to make us take some clothes off or subject us to something that amounts to faulty medical procedures?

        • In 2002 I was on my way to Iraq in FULL military BDU’s escorted with armed marines and 22 other medical personal on an ALL MILITARY FLIGHT to Rome, then to the Middle east. After we were bypassed the ‘usual security checks, myself and several of the more lets say “attractive” Medics were pulled and detained off to the side by said TSA employees. They told us our checks where ‘random’ and that I needed to strip there the corner booth. I demanded that my CO ( Who had passed a head of me) be notified, She came back and had us ‘released’ so we could continue on. I refused a pat down and a strip search.

          I was in full uniform, fully ID’d and with armed escorts.

          Its about fear and humiliation people, and you can think in what ever small minded perverse world you live in that these yes, Nazi Draconian tactics are okie dokie with you.

          I do vote, and vote every chance I get, but as any child knows voting has nothing to do with whom is actually put in to power. So continue mulling in your decaf lattes and carry on with your ignorance and blinders.

          When you’re boiled.

          Please don’t look surprised.

          ( And yes I used the wrong grouse, maybe I was making a slight Freudian analogy to the bird brains in our country)

          • Why are you so angry? I mean, I get being engaged in an argument and I understand voicing your opinion….but you’re really, really angry….and not so nice to some of the other folks.

            Also…why all the name calling? Is this a debate or a dung toss?

            Just curious.

          • Waste toss.

            They are NOT scare tactics. They are safety measures. This isn’t about self-image, it’s about lives.

    • Interesting angle.

      I guess I could say the knee-jerk, pc thing:

      Even people who are currently overweight deserve respect!

      But, yes, the higher the American people hold their heads, and the more they put their feet down with injustice, the less all of us will have to deal with oppression from our government.

  12. Is there anything we can do to prevent this?

    Crystal
    http://www.crystalspins.com

    • I wrote this trying to start thinking about that.

      I have a link to that electronic privacy group, so you might look there for answers.

      I also think there should be a petition. Will look around for one, or try to make one this weekend.

      Seems like the ACLU should be interested. I would look to them. Maybe they have some info. Maybe we should start asking them to look into it.

      And, there is always the kind of boycott and writing to the industry stuff I suggested.

      -Kimberly

      • Kim, the ACLU is a joke these days. And they’re becoming just as underhanded as the dogs they’re suppose to be protecting us from.

        It’s about self revolution.

        And you are correct. If Americans were healthier and spent more time taking care of themselves, and less stress ( such as myself) they’d see all of the injustice and have the energy to change it.

        But as the old saying goes, if you’re too tired and broken to live, how are you to fight?

  13. Very polemic issue…
    Nice post!

    Vanessa Rima
    http://www.fashionissima.com

  14. hear hear. this is a classic case of a group with zero oversight, and unbridled power in the name of security, putting their own profits ahead of their jobs. This has nothing to do with security. This has a lot to do with the payouts coming out of installation of this frankenstein devices.

    • Dogwithoutabone: I think I agree with you. Wish you could explain more. I think you are saying that the government and security folks are the ones wrong, because they are using these more for profit than real security. I think that is very true.

  15. Money
    It’s a hit
    I’m in the high-fidelity first class traveling set
    I think I need a Lear jet

  16. When I came back from Ireland recently, I flew through Atlanta, and they would not let me back into the country without going through the full-body scanner (my first one). A pat-down was not offered as an option. I was told to walk through it or to be escorted away by security. The sign at the scanner claims it’s less radiation than a cell phone, but not everyone chooses to use a cell phone, due to the radiation issues. I agree, this is ridiculous.

    • “Officials must naturally defend compulsory passenger X-rays as harmless. But they are signing no guarantees because ionizing radiation in the X-ray spectrum damages and mutates both chromosomal DNA and structural proteins in human cells. If this damage is not repaired, it can lead to cancer. New research shows that even very low doses of X-ray can delay or prevent cellular repair of damaged DNA, raising questions about the safety of routine medical X-rays. Unborn babies can become grotesquely disfigured if their mothers are irradiated during pregnancy. Heavily X- rayed persons of childbearing age can sustain chromosomal damage, endangering offspring. Radiation damage is cumulative and each successive dose builds upon the cellular mutation caused by the last. It can take years for radiation damage to manifest pathology.”

      • Many thanks, TaintedInk. Is your quote from one of my referenced articles, or something you found. It is so ominous.
        Yeah, one problem is, they are acting like there is no problem, because the other choice is to do the pat down. But, should pregnant women really be in the same building with a machine doing hundreds of x-rays an hour?

      • How far away is far away enough from a scanner that some other foolish traveler is allowing to be used on themselves? How far should you stay away from an x-ray machine without a lead apron???

    • Thanks, Jane.

      Yeah, I don’t use a cell phone.

      I don’t deserve needless radiation that I don’t choose. And, I shouldn’t be intimidating with the threat of radiation from leaving or returning to my country.

  17. With all the xrays I’ve had – better not let them do more!

  18. Years ago, maybe the 40s, xray machines were in shoe departments for folks to see if the shoes fit; especially kids with growing feet. These were banned as they proved to be a danger. How are these machines at airport any safer? They are used more often than in shoe departments by frequent flyers and xray more than feet. Why has there been no mention of this other than maybe the technology is safer now?
    I don’t travel as much as I used to but I’d refuse the scan and feel anger at being patted down. Yes, I want to be safe but from what I understand, these methods have not proven to be effective.

    Thanks for letting me vent!
    mw

    • They were also used inplace of the “modern” sonogram”
      Ever heard of a flipper baby?

    • Thanks, MaryAnn. Yeah, this is a different political cause than usual. It affects everyone, because it becomes an actual block to freely leaving the country. (For instance, someone might never think of this, and they get invited to another country suddenly, or invited to present art or culture in another country, and realize that they will be over-scrutinized, irradiated and/or blocked from travel.)

      But, the energy to stop this will probably have to come from people who are regular travelers and tourists. And, that may mean people more inclined than others to follow the status quo, or support hyper-security.

      Hope we can wake those people up, too!

    • PS to MaryAnn: Come vent anytime! I actually have my own “tag” called rant. I welcome rants, venting, rough drafts, and thinking things through in the comments!
      ;)

  19. Great article! I couldn’t agree more. I wrote an article similar this years back when the patriot act had passed and warrantless wiretapping was still in the news. Its tough taking such a stance against fellow Americans that seem to be convinced that this is for the greater good. I have just now become accustomed to the security at the airport after nearly a decade of copping a sh*t attitude when they ask me to take my shoes off. I’d be delighted to follow these suggestions next time my rights are violated. I have been looking forward to taking a passenger train most of my life, so I’m sure that will be my preferred method of travel these days-and its a bit cheaper. Thanks for fighting the good fight!

    • Thanks, Blandness girl. I do think that if there is a shift of travel away from airplanes and towards train, car, and boat, that they will start figuring out pretty fast to do a better balance of security vs. civil rights. Do you blog? Would be interested in someone who writes about the Patriot Act!

  20. Way to go DoHS. Glad I’m in Canada, but I’m sure these aren’t far behind across the country. In fact, I’ve seen the notice on the Canadian air security web page regarding the x-ray devices. This should never have been implemented wide scale until further educated opinions were put forth. Even if everyone just demands the “pat down” method, that will strain resources, because they will need to have extra staffing on hand to assure everything goes smoothly. There are required to be two additional officers of the same sex as the passenger present for the pat down in a separate area. Therefore, space and staff constraints may prompt a further review into this whole subject. Demand the pat down – despite how incredibly violating it might seen. At least you can guarantee that there’s no chance of an image being accidentally retained (like some airport security people have reported happened when these were first implemented).

  21. I don’t mind about the full body scan. But I want a free copy please ;-)

  22. i can only be happy i don”t live in us. and i do feel sorry for you guys….. it doesn’t sound very cool to say the least. ..
    this sopose to be lower dosage of xrays, but when u go to doctor, to have xray done, have u noticed how the doctor, is dressed to avoid radiation? (not sure if its same everywhere, but when i had my x ray done, doctor had almost a full body protection, like a knight form Medieval times)

  23. airline travelers haven’t made a stink of a lot of nuisances of late. this probably won’t be any different.

    we’re a rather complacent bunch, you know?

  24. If you don’t like the security don’t fly. When that full body scan catches some terroist, and keeps them off your plane; you will like it then.

    http://consolidatingschool-loans.org/

    • It has yet to CATCH anyone. And it won’t. Why? Because if “they” know how it works then “they” know full well how to evade detection. But, hey, I wonder what how much the stock in the company that produces these machines sells for????

  25. I think we’re missing a vital point here: the new full body scanners aren’t installed just for the fun of it! They’re there because terrorist groups/individuals are getting smarter about hiding explosives or their components (like in their underwear, maybe?), and so the body scanner becomes “a necessary evil”, if you will, to make sure that someone doesn’t get on a plane and explode 300 people into oblivion (or crash the plane into a building and kill 3,000…)

    And I bet that if that tragedy were to happen (again), the same people ratting on the government and Obama now would STILL be yelling at them, complaining that they didn’t take ENOUGH measures soon enough.

    Bottom line is: if you don’t like the new policies, don’t travel by plane. Accept that traveling this way has become more dangerous, so as a result more protective measures need to be taken.

    And as for integrity and walking in your socks, goodness! Would you rather have a government that didn’t care about people’s safety (if they chose to fly), said, “Oh sure, go ahead, everybody flies, no scans, no pat-downs…just as long as you’re content and not troubled…” There are enough countries in the world that exhibit this pandemic apathy towards their people. The US is not one of them. Sure, the government isn’t perfect, but at least they’re making strides in the right direction…

    • If you truly believe the government CARES about our safety then you must believe in the tooth fairy too. There’s thing called WAR and it’s clear no one cares about the safety of anyone anymore.
      I don’t feel CARED about by the airport security people. I feel threatened, intimidated, stressed and like a criminal in my OWN country.

      • We fight them because they killed 3,000 of our citizens – people who hadn’t done a single thing to threaten them. And now they want us all dead. Unnessecary war? Nope. Government does care about your safety. That’s why we’re fighting.

    • And stop telling us to form a revolution and boycott everything because you don’t like it!

  26. Excellent post! It seems the masses these days are overly passive and just allow anything to be done to them personally and don’t say anything to oppose it in fear that they will be singled out, ridiculed and exposed for only expressing their rights and opinions. These actions will continue to happen as the powers that be know they can get away with it.

    • Wow. This is definitely a part of the story.

      I think partly because of the aftermath of 9-11, and partly because of our consumer culture, Americans just don’t care as much about our rights.

      Very sad.

      I hope that a new swell of genuine patriotism, respect for the rights of individuals, and confidence in petitioning our government arises.

      Travelmammal, thanks for your profound comment.

  27. Where is the outrage? If this was a Homeland Security action under the Bush Administration there would be marching in the street — and there should be!!! I don’t let the dentist take x-rays unless absolutely necessary, so why should I let TSA do a whole-body scan!!!

    One important thought: Israel has a perfect track record on safe air travel, and they don’t use x-rays. They profile. They talk to everyone. They have a system and it works. They don’t treat gramma like a terrorist in order to be “fair” or x-ray everyone so that we can all be politically correct. It is insane. (But don’t know how I’m going to get to Texas these days. Maybe I’ll drive.)

  28. While I am anti-body scanner, you might want to reword your statement, ” I would never, ever expose myself to radiation in order to go on some vacation, or even a trip to see a relative.”
    You are exposed to radiation by flying. If you have flown, even before these body scanners were in place, you have been exposed to radiation in order to go on vacation or to see a relative.

    [A] Source:
    http://www.swpc.noaa.gov/info/RadHaz.html

    • Thanks, Amy.

      I actually learned something about background radiation during flights from reading the Pilot’s letter.

      If I do a big revise on the article to publish it somewhere else, I will incorporate your point.

      I still think the point stands that we should not take definite and extra radiation, applied by non-doctors, and forced by our government.

  29. Well thankfully Disneyland doesn’t require air travel for me!

    Thank you so very much for bringing more attention to this subject. People seem to be oblivious to the dangers of radiation, and I’m tired of TSA giving me attitude when I elect a full body pat down. The collective damage these machines have on the human body is profound and a healthier alternative needs to be introduced asap!

  30. I’ve been worried about this since I first read about the scanner in Amsterdam. It’s BS and I am with you. I will not let my body be scanned. The airline industry is getting one blow after the next, this just might be the nail in it’s coffin.

  31. I believe in safety and security, but all of that goes out the window if I’m exposing myself to a radiation and a heightened risk of cancer every time I get on a plane.

    That said I’ll take the pat-down. It isn’t the end of the world.

    • Dear Nicholas,

      Think about this: People who are more educated in general, and more aware of health issues, might take the smart path, such as you want to.

      But, should we expose people who are less educated, maybe poorer people, and/or people who might not make such good decisions such as people with lo IQ’s to make the decision such as you did. When, we know the radiation is bad?

      Also, maybe you don’t mind the pat down. Would you want your wife, daughter, sister to have a full body pat down? I think women have more sincere modesty, privacy, and fear issues with people patting them down.

      • Lo IQ, education and poverty?! What does that have to do with anything? Sorry, but your response just come off overly elitist.

        And by the by, what’s the TSA to do with a Muslim woman in full dress? If she won’t go thru the scanner nor allow to be patted down? She shouldn’t be allowed to fly… and then that opens up another can of worms… discrimination.

  32. We should all walk through naked then there will be no need for body scanners.
    The added benefit would be the would be bombers, who tend to be of the Islamic faith, are not allowed to see naked females so they would not travel and put us at risk in the first place.

    Also it might encourage some of the grossly overweight fat porkers to do something about their size.

    Win win to me.

  33. Tempted to stick a cucumber and alarm clock in my pants. Let them figure it out.

  34. it’s shocking to me how Americans are finding the silliest reasons to have tantrums. about their rights being violated and how they’re being exposed to radiation. here’s a fact: YOU ARE EXPOSED TO RADIATION EVERY SINGLE DAY. FROM THE TV THAT U WATCH, THE LAPTOP THAT U USE, THE COMPUTER U SIT AT, THE CELLPHONE U HAVE. EVERYTHING EMITS RADIATION. So hmmm.. if our goverment is trying to protect your ungrateful behind maybe you should be thankful that theyre using the kind of technology to make sure nothing harmful or life threatening gets on board? Maybe you should think about the lives that were lost on board the plane terrorist hijacking on 9/11. were those lives lost in vain? for you to be sitting hear complaining about a couple minutes of humiliation? get over it. our country is protecting us. maybe you need to live a couple months in a war torn country like afghanistan. then ull understand the significance of these protective measures. p.s. I’m American. it’s time to stop complaining and understand they’re doing this for our own good.

  35. I find this whole scene totally offensive, insane and moronic. Fear used to create an industry product based on fear. Machines that are USELESS. More fear, more lies, more “1984”. The last time I flew and was patted down by some woman who had the nerve to tell me that she was making me ‘safer’ got a piece of my mind –“So why don’t I feel safe now that you’ve got your hands on me? I feel totally violated. Can I touch YOU now? You are just a fear monger tool. Why don’t you find a better job?” She didn’t respond at all. But other people waiting for the same procedure got very quiet. I suspect that if there weren’t so many ARMED guards around just waiting for a reason to arrest/shoot/ someone we would have all revolted right then and there.
    Thanks for a GREAT POST!

  36. Pat downs are actually not new. I’ve been patted down long before this scanner was even a thought. And, if memory serves, I was patted down prior to 9-11.

    On the whole though, if I/we have to travel somewhere by plane, I’m going to find out if the airports have the scanners. Are both LaGuardia and JFK using them? How about Islip? I’ve flown in and out of Islip a few times. Nice regional airport getting a bit bigger finally.

    Anyhow, if I find that an airport that I’d have to use has them, I might just opt out of flying.

  37. An X-Ray ? where? are you talking about the sonar scanner?
    because that’s the only one provided in airport. X-Ray it is illegal! DO pat down!

  38. More ways to activate on this issue:

    Just got off the phone with the EPIC organization. There is a FACEBOOK page that is a coalition of people working against the full body scanner program.

    You can go to:

    http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=239458517874

    Also, EPIC has a lawsuit to stop the program.

    Click on the EPIC report form below to report body scanner incidents you have encountered:

    http://epic.org/bodyscanner/incident_report/

    Also, the ACLU/American Civil Liberties Union is looking into the matter. They have a questionnaire (which reveals possible concerns), and a way for you to contact them with your incident reports at:

    https://secure.aclu.org/site/SSurvey?&ACTION_REQUIRED=URI_ACTION_USER_REQUESTS&SURVEY_ID=1440

    Thanks to all for your interest!
    Kimberly Wilder

  39. Your right this is pretty scary stuff, but we have to think its for our protection, your health is unimportant if someone on your flight desides to be selfish and blow it up.

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  40. I wish alternative forms of transportation would get on board and realize that people are getting fed up with airplanes and are willing to take the extra time that it would take to travel either by train or bus, or even car. I traveled by bus last year from SD to NJ and back. In all honestly, it wasn’t that bad, except that we generally were not on time. But until they have more opportunities for people to charge their electronic devices, less time on the delayed starting side, and in some cases, better terminals, no one is going to travel by bus. (Even though it was almost $300 cheaper per ticket.) Also, traveling by bus with little little kids doesn’t work too well, and you need a almost a day on each side to recover for long trips.

    However, for anyone interested in traveling by bus, I did write about it.

  41. […] This post was mentioned on Twitter by Adam Gonnerman, Freshly Pressed. Freshly Pressed said: We need a passenger/tourist revolt against full body scanners http://bit.ly/avmV0p […]

  42. I see your point and it is certainly is scary (especially for the career road warriors) but I think it’s unreasonable to ask people to boycot air travel. I can somewhat get on board with the pat down alternative. As for suggesting that people burp or fart on the TSA checkers I think that’s funny in writing but a bit uncalled for in reality. These people are just doing their jobs; the scanners weren’t their idea. On the other hand, most of them are jerks and I have a sneaking suspicion they were the bullies in grade school. So, maybe it’s not so uncalled for after all.

    I found your post to be entertaining. Thanks for sharing!

    • Dear Prodigal,

      I am not proud of the burping, etc. part!

      ;)

      But, sometimes indignity leads to indignity.

      Thanks for your comments!

      ;)
      Kimberly

  43. I went through one of these scanners the other day while traveling. I didn’t know what I was doing at the time- I simply unloaded my purse, took off my boots and my sweatshirt, and when they said, “Please take everything out of your pockets,” I just agreed. It wasn’t until they said, “Ok now stop and put your hands over your head,” that I even realized that I was in *gasp* one of those full body scanners. I didn’t know that was what it was until it was too late, and I certainly had no idea that I had the right to say I didn’t WANT to go through it.

    There are two issues here: 1 is radiation, and the other is privacy. For me, privacy is actually the main issue. I traveled alone for many years , and every time , without fail, I received a look, a glance, or a comment from a man working in the security line. Every time. It always made me uncomfortable (Even if it was a simple, “You are very pretty”), and it makes me very, very uncomfortable to think about those same people sitting behind an x-ray machine that is showing them all of our bodies.

    I do not by any means think that all people working for security in the airport are bad people or installed the x-rays just to leer. But I do think it is something that we should think about- and you bet I’m going to pick a pat down over an x-ray every time.

    • Ablelovedone,

      Thanks for your story.

      That is a problem I had not even thought of. Some people feel like they are smart enough, they will say no x-ray, just pat down. But, what if you don’t realize it is x-ray, or get shuffled and surprised that you get scanned.

      I just learned about this group EPIC. But, you might want to consider helping their lawsuit by filling out an incident report.

      Here is the link:

      http://epic.org/bodyscanner/incident_report/

  44. I have to say I would refuse to go through one of those full body scanners – because of the radiation and because the pictures it takes are very graphic. They are a complete invasion of privacy. I’d rather take the small risk that someone will board the plane with an objectionable item.

  45. I had this as the subject of my blog just the other day. Your blog was really informative, I was just having fun with the subject matter.

    http://avaaston.wordpress.com/2010/11/02/invasion-of-the-body-scanners/

    Well written and congrats on being Freshly Pressed.

    Blessings,

    Ava
    xox

  46. Here’s an option, people. Just walk through the scanners or let them pat you down for a few seconds. Believe it or not, it’s for your own safety. Maybe you haven’t heard…but there’s been more than few airplane bombings lately. It’s for your own well being, just get over it and let make sure the airplane you’re getting on is safe. Get real.

  47. You’re exposed to radiation every day. How many hours do you spend in front of your computer? You don’t use a cellphone but how about a microwave? A TV set? A cordless phone?

    • Because I get radiation one way, by one choice I make, doesn’t mean that the government should unnecessarily force radiation on me. Especially since it is something that becomes more dangerous as it builds up.

      But, FYI: I do use a computer. (I do not put it my by head or genitals.) I do not use a microwave, because I do want to limit radiation exposure. And, I don’t have a tv or cordless phone.

      I have the right to make choices about which devices I use, if those devices do or could harm my health.

      Thanks,
      Kimberly

  48. […] Wilder of The Wilder Side has an issue with the TSA’s screening procedures in American airports: This is a humiliation happening to all of the American people. This is an […]

  49. Since we won’t racially profile, this is the price we pay.

    • Dear Marie,

      I disagree. And, I think that is a depressing connection to make.

      I believe that racial profiling and full body checks of every passenger are both foolish and ineffective ways to truly fight crime and terrorism.

  50. Thanks for this info. I’ve been trying to follow these updates. As a guy in his early 30s who usually travels alone and one way, I’m used to being selected for the pat down routine. I kind of prefer it if it saves me a long line, but these machines have got to go. I am willing to sacrifice some privacy in the name of security in certain areas of my life, but xrays are over the top.

  51. Last Christmas my wife and I took a train from Provo, UT to Sacramento, CA, and it was infinitely more desirable than either flying or driving. There was no security check and a lot more room than on a plane, and it was easier to move about, explore the train, and get to our bags if we needed anything. The trip was only slightly faster than driving, but neither of us had to drive, so we could watch the scenery or (through less-scenic Nevada) sleep. It was a great experience, one I would highly recommend.

    • Thanks, dmunson.

      Yeah, I think if it is such an ordeal to fly an airplane, people should use other modes of transportation whenever possible.

      But, if people do get on a plane, there should be a certain amount of freedom of movement within and outside our country. This is not the Soviet bloc.

    • I prefer train travel a lot. You get so much space on a train, it equals at least business class.
      And if you consider the time of getting to the airport (whereas train stations are usually in the middle of the city where you want to go), checking in, security check, waiting, delays, waiting for baggage, trains are sometimes even competitive on time compared with planes.

  52. Mild warning: This comment is so long, the editors did not have the patience to moderate it. I think it has some curses in it, maybe some things that are unfair? But, someone did an awful lot of thinking. So, we are posting it. Read at your own discretion. Thanks. -The moderator

    Of course there could be anoher possibility:::::Due to the legacy of hatred for the Gods, since I am guarenteed a spot on the next Planet Earth I will be the original “bad seed”:::The Lucifer-figure of the next reality. Unlike Christian dogma, he may just be some disgruntled asshole, representing the only target of the God’s ire early, the proverbial “apple” of the next reality, beginning the infectious process which leads planets to where we are today.

    Outstanding clue generously offered by the Gods:::
    There are clues the Gods have a symbol that represents them. As Christians recognize the upside down cross as the sign of Satan so do the Satanist offer an upside down star with a circle surrounding as their symbol.
    I believe the star with a perimeter or bisecting circle is the symbol of the Gods. As a “disgruntled future Lucifer” I enjoyed all things “Piss on the Star”.
    Including Cowboy haters who sang a nice song with this topic.
    The 11-5 2009 Dallas Cowboys are currently 1-6.

    I suspect many attempts have begun already, but as time goes on the Gods will test people’s religious resolve with an insurmuntable positioning stating Christianity is the one true religion. We’ve seen their efforts in Latin America, in the Philippines and most recently in Vietnam, India and the demonizing of Islam.
    They intend to test your resolve as Muslims, for those who sell out and flee to Christianity will be subject to their positioning.
    Blacks are the most disfavored of all people. We see it in their temptation-ridden culture, in their sexual behavior, which the Civil Rights “assimilation” has allowed. The Gods used their position of the Italians to do their dirty work, implimenting the crack epidemic, the black civil war of the 80s and 90s, AIDS in Africa, “pimp” subculture, etc. The Gods created this positioning of Italian’s preditory behavior on Africans to reflect their own disfavor towards that group, allowing them to get what they want without accepting culpability, convieniently. As such, come the Apocalypse those who abandon their true selves, their religion and their dedication to it will be victims in this deceptive Christian theater.
    Blacks that opt for the “easy way out” will ironically lose their lives in the Apocalypse. Only those who remain true to their religion, its strict methods and lifestyle, and resist the outside temptations stating their are going the wrong way will emerge out of the carnage of The End of Time. They are highly suspectable to temptation and they need their religion to help them be strong and resist it. They will be better people for it and superior to the Christians in the end.

    Full Metal Jacket:::”You know what I hate? We’re trying to help these people and they shit all over us.” Because you’re destroying their way of life, introducing poison into their culture, like JFK’s Catholicism.
    The same ocurrs with Peace Corps and other volunteer/missionary efforts offered. These people have a better chance of ascending into heaven, and Americans unwittingly are being used to reduce/eliminate this chance with their misled good intentions and later their intentional preditory intentions, maximizing the damage they incurr from the Gods.
    Another loss for liberals.

    This is the life of utmost importance. People need to listen, understand and learn from me and make the changes I prescribe. Without, they will have no chance at ascending into heaven before the Apocalypse, and the only hope they will have is 1000 years with Jesus, which is no sure thing.
    Even so, assuming they are rewarded with 1000 years with Jesus, they will be offered all manners of temptations, for it will be THE Big Party at The End, and if they don’t address these problems now, while they have this chance to learn this activity is evil, before society declares it socially acceptable, they will be granted some fraction of 1000 years and be disposed of thereafter, when the party “dies down”, pardon the pun.
    Also, disgusted by their behavior, the Gods have created a subculture which celebrates partying in the black community, guarenteeing that “requirement” is satisfied so they are never “invited”.
    Only those people who never began the temptations or who addressed these issues and remedied the problems will move on to the next Planet Earth. And we are still approximately 4 lifetimes away, most of which I expect to be revelry years. By that time even the most conservative Christian will be tested to see if they can establish this destructive legacy of revelry.
    Move on to a new Planet Earth. This is their second chance::::They have to start over. Either they ascend into heaven from their planet of origin or they don’t ascend as all, and that’s how the system works.
    It’s a very small population which exists at the dawn of agrarianism because most have sccumbed to temptation and failed to achieve their second chance on the new Planet Earth.

    I have said diseases, such as cancer, won’t be going anywhere, no matter how much money is thrown at it, no matter how much money is raised. These diseases are important tools used by the Gods to help people do the right thing:::Cancer has compelled more than a few women to begin praying and behave appropriately.
    In this environment of decay, the Gods will eventually eliminate these motivations one day. Positioning states cures/vaccines are positive developments which display life is improving. Unfortunately, this is just another example of how the Gods utilize “reverse positioning” which has been very effective in promoting deceptive elements in society, such as democracy, Christianity and Californication, Hollywood being the primary tool used to spread the message of The Beast.
    Similarly, other motivations which have complelled people to turn to the Gods for solice will begin to disappear as well::::Economic recession/turmoil, Unlike the Christian Bible’s version, the Apocalypse will not be preceeded by ruin and desperation. Just the opposite, there will be peace and personal satisfaction leading to The End, ensuring the Gods can control the group selected for the Second Coming event.

    All prophets are used like any of the God’s tools::As temptation. Jesus may have just liked the idea. The Gods killed him for good reason.
    The irony of the Apocalypse::::
    People told not to follow the Second Coming, who fail to recognize the urgency of the moment and die in the Apocalypse because of it.
    The Gods will account for people who do not sell out to Christianity, however difficult due to temptation.
    It will become difficult to remain Muslim in this environment. It will be positioned that everyone except Christians are The Damned and will die come The End.
    This positioning, and how all this goes down come the Apocalypse, will just be the God’s attempt at testing people with temptation, for it will matter in The End to those whom suceed.

    Today’s slaughterhouses have perfected the “quick kill”:::The hammer slides across and it is “lights out”.
    In bygone eras whereas the skilled rancher knew where to place the knife for the quickest kill, it is a different story for fisherman. Fish are the one meat supply which suffers most before death, and it is noted by the Gods.
    And why people like the Japanese base their food supply on the sea. Money is a terrible corruptor, and confuses people into thinking the Japanese could be favored, but this clue shoudl help people see that in fact these war mongers are among God’s most disfavored.
    Much as women’s products are superior because they are the favored gender, look to the children (with the exception of temptations, alcohol, sweets, etc), for as the most favored of all peoples their attitudes can be used as a benchmark.

    Christianity is responsible for African slavery. The Italian men who ran the church set out to gain revenge for the invasion of Italy and, still the largest landowner in Europe, used their considerable clout with the thrones of England to achieve this.
    The Gods used Christianity to destroy the cultures of Europe and around the world, replaced with the patriarchal standard which it imposed.
    The Gods used temptation to compell the Italians to do their dirty work for them, punishment for evils of black people, and that extened into the 20th century with Civil Rights, the crack epidemic, gang membership/the “thug life” and even AIDS in Africa, a recycling of the biotechnology product originally intened for the gay community.
    As with everything there is always a real reason behind their positioning, and in both cases it is punishment for deviate behavior.

    Being “schitzo”, the internal battle between good and evil, is a deteriorating gernerational issue that is dying off, much like I illustrated for punishment below:::
    This new generation, who were the grandparents of their parents, are an early evil generation and one whom became corrupted and fell for societal temptation readily available for them and every generation of the masses thereafter.
    Their parents came before that generation, the agrarian masses, God-fearing, absent for the temptation offerings of early modern society (Roaring 20s vs. 60s/70s). As a result whereas Dad has great internal conflict I refer to as schitzo because of his connection to his past his children will be less so, perhaps far less so depending on grade of sins in their prior life, decreasing generationally until they have all become Godless, immoral monsters.

    Just as the Gulf oil spill was a clue from the Gods to conservatives about “Drill, drill, drill.”, so was the PG&E/San Bruno fire a clue against doing what you are told.
    Understand the message behind the act and learn from other people’s loss.
    If people begin to do the right thing the Gods will punish them for the evil they’ve done before then. In this case PG&E was like the United States, like the ROman Empire:::A tool the gods use to accomplish a goal. In the case of PG&E it has a helpful dynamic, which never ocurrs when it comes to the US.

    “Californication” – The tool the Gods use to brainwash the people, amplifying disfavor level as we approach the Apocalypse by merely fitting into society.
    Poisoning their brainwashed minds…corrupted by society, AI convinces people “earning” is the way, compelling them into evil. This is falling for temptation, while Californication ensures at least a minimal amount of damage, ensuring a minimal amount of generational progress towards the Apocalypse.
    I demand another. I have signed off. Give the disfavored another and without all the defensive tactics, cowards.
    Pick out someone else, do this again and discard this Situation.
    The people who have learned were going to learn anyways. They’re not the ones who need it.
    The disfavored need it, people like my family, too far gone for any hope at ascention before The End, and they should be allowed moments if not periods of clarity before the decision is made about them.
    “Decay is inherent in all component things. Work out your own salvation with diligence.” – Buddha

    I have explained how the gods are phasing out punishment as we get closer to the Apocalypse. Disfavor levels dictate there is insufficient time to repair their problems, relegating people to the Second Coming event.
    I mentioned how old timers today may experience hell, albeit a “toned down” experience. I suspect the same is true in the context of prison:::The gods maintain a contstantly decreasing number of punitive intsitutions in case there is a need. But, over time they will be eliminated and the entire system will be quite amicable. Look for this pattern elsewhere as well, for the Gods are eliminating punishment throughout in preparation for the Apocalypse, for it is no longer necessary.

    We are witnessing the “control freak” nature of the Gods, their tendancy to micromanage with Artificial Intelligence with this issue of California’s Proposition 19, the marijuana legalization initiative.
    Under normal conditions by September those seeking to defeat Proposition 19, the alcohol industry, would have spent tens if not hundreds of millions to defeat the proposition and keep dope illegal.
    The Gods instructed the clone hosts who run these organizations to not fight the proposal. As illustrated below, when passed the suburbs of America will become like the ghettos in the inner cities:::Drugs available on every corner. It will represent a MAJOR step towards societal deterioration and decay. Middle-aged men who have given up pot will resume consumption, and what little wisdom the masculinized women still pass on will lose effectiveness. Insteadof being reincarnated based on the progress they make once mature, these men will be placed based on their mistakes, for less progress will be made.

    The Gods send clues about this situation frequently.
    Eddie of Iron Maiden.
    Closure of Fitsgeralds Reno/getting kicked out of Fits LV 1990 for “counting cards” after 5 minutes and $20:::Accusation of the innocent.
    WWII’s other holocaust:::Unit 731:::tsushogo. Tsushogo was a clue from the Gods illustrating their positioning long before it began. Incidentally, the used it to hurt the Chinese and position against future Japanese sucess by burying their atrocities.

    They have shared that when the change is initially made they alter the DNA with Artificial Intelligence, ensuring it is not the same person.
    Now depending on their level of activity the Gods switch out for new individuals, ie presidents switched frequently. They say they bring the (m)father’s DNA when it is time to conceive, so it is strategically important who is in there for the conception of the children. The same may not be true for typical activity:::the Gods may alter the DNA upon initial clone hosting but it may be a general change. Conception requires specific DNA.
    And? So?
    So there are no Rockafellers. This was how the Gods eliminated their true importance, for now they are little more than lowly English peasants, ironically.
    Nothing is ever going to change.
    Now the case can be made that far more men are invited into clone hosting than women, and since lineage is matrilineal it would rather follow that blood line instead.
    All it takes is one.
    But I wonder if it even matters. Those who learn and are wise enough to refuse the offer of clone hosting still have to repair their relationship with the Gods and hope for a better placement in their next life, one which certainly won’t involve being a billionaire. Whether real Rockafellers or DNA alternates is of no concequence. Their goal is still ascention, which takes work and dedication. Being/thinking you’re capitalism royalty invites a host of temptations, including grandeur and self-importance, which are all damaging to a good relationship with the Gods.
    If only they can overcome the temptations that money brings, like ample stunning women and Scarface piles of cocaine.
    The consequence of clone hosting is the loss of ascention into heaven. The best they can hope for is 1000 years with Jebus in a temptation-infested enviornment where one can have anything they want.

    Just as the victims of Mengele’s “showers which clentch you of your life” were the Italians who conceived and implimented WorldWarII’s Blitzkreig, so do I think the unholy alliance between evil Japan and good Germany is the cause of the “Siamese Twins” Mengele experiment:::”sewen together, joining heads, just a matter of time before you rip yourselves apart”.
    World War II, the Holocaust were revenge for Germany’s 5th century AD invasion of the dying Roman Empire,
    Those at the top are the ones who suffered the worst because of their intimate involvement. Perhaps it was the godfather who experienced the “frozen water burial” “crack your limbs”.
    Praying for the end of your wide-awake nightmare…
    How was the Holocaust positioned? What did the Italians have against the Jews? The Romans destroyed Temple. Perhaps Joshua…
    What is the God’s real reason behind WWII? Punishment?
    For what? The Crusades? It was a fight supporting evil Christianity, in defense of evil against their religious superiors. For this the Germans should pay.
    Punished for being war mongers.

    Go ahead and ignore this. You won’t ever defy and do the right thing anyways.
    “These came to life again and reigned with Christ for a thousand years.” Revelation 20:4. Reference t reincarnation.
    Don’t forget to try space coke in the blender and have sex with as many stunning bitches as your goddamn dick will allow, because this place is going to be ALL about temptation. Some decent god-fearing people will suceed at resisting temptation, but the Gods will ensure lots of human trash to facilitate temptation.
    It will be the rare individual who makes the transistion in an enviornment where you can have anything you want. I believe those who survive these temptations must return to an Earth-like planet, for they have to begin again. Ascention must ocurr from planet of origin.
    “Going along” will “earn” your invitation to the Second Coming of Christ. You will be reincarnated until that age comes, buy you a mere 1000 years and cost you your chance at immortality, simply because you bought into evil as “earning” and subscribed to the big lie.
    Not everyone will be going. They will tell some of you to ignore the Second Coming event, and it will cost you your life, ironically. Blacks, on the other hand, will be asked TO folllow the Second Coming, simply because as an Italian religion blacks who pursue Christianity will die in the Apocalypse because of it.
    Never doubt that Muslims are your superiors. These people are dedicated to their religion while your population have abandoned churches in droves.

    We no longer see orphanages for good reason::::The state would be forced to use professionals, experts in their field to devise standards these facilities would apply to the children. These standards would illustrate an ideal rearing goals which we in fact could all learn from.
    This is an outstanding example of reverse positioning and how the Gods created a society where evil appears not only good but also socially acceptable.
    Civil Righs is a similar issue. Segregation in today’s age would command full funding for black universities and well established black jounralism and media outlets, not this integrated white media cancer where blacks eat what they are fed.

    Christians have mistakenly believed the perception of the Biblical definintion of The Beast as a person. I suggest The Beast instead refers to a place:::The San Francisco Bay Area. In fact the Gods offer a geographic clue suggesting this, like so many others they offer around the globe, to help people understand:::
    Mt.Diablo, “The Devil” is the “eye” of The Beast, the EastBay shoreline as the upper jaw/incisors while the peninsula is the grinding lower jaw. Witness the disturbing upturned smile in the gullet.
    The fact than man has shaped much of the shoreline in the 20th century is a testiment to the God’s refusal to accept any culpability.
    Gold Rush, counter-culture, alternate lifestyle acceptance, etc. The Beast was used to promote social decay throughout the 20th century and beyond. Difficult to perceive in the current age, one can understand their impacts from a historical perspective.
    There was a time when once the Gods “divinely” inspired punishment, where the act was inflicted by the hand of God. They were punishing people and accepting the culpability arising, maintaining societal integrity. Now, in the 20th century and beyond, the Gods tempt man to inflict this punishment, selling them on “earning”, incurring no culpability in the process. The result is social decay and deterioration of mankind’s favor in the eyes of the Gods leading to the Apocalypse.
    Another feature which the Gods offer as a clue is very foreboading and ominous. Mt. Zion is a mountain to the north of Diablo and one which has a working quarry at its base. Consistant with the decay we experience in society, Mt. Zion is being eaten away, slowly stripped of its resources, until one day paradise will be gone forever.

    The Man in The Moon is yet another of the God’s clues, and it illustrates the favor the Gods could bestow upon us if we behave appropriately.
    Conversely, there is also a clue in the dark side of the Moon:::A side we never see and is hidden from view. Concealed by their positioning, this represents the Gods punishment when the people disobey their rules dictating the meaning of a decent life.

    The Italian peninsula is very pronounced as it juts out into the Medietereanean.
    Considering the shape it is quite obvious they were the primary targets of the post-IceAge/Straight of Gibralter/Noah’s Flood disaster.
    Considering the shape of the boot and how Sicily “caught” the surge, the resulting tsunami inundated the entire southern portion of the peninsula, killing everything and perhaps covering even the highest land masses.
    In the 20th century the Italians were convinced entering clone hosting was ascention into heaven, and their success was a recruiting tool, just as the Holocaust was for the Jews, only duress is far less damaging.

    The women have God’s favor, and when the women do all the evil, as was the case in my family, this serves to “equalize” the playing field, ensuring no wisdom comes to this family as they grow older. As a result they never make progress and achieve the lowest possible placement when reincarnated.

    Couple years ago a story in the media how girls in Bayview-Hunter’s Point were going into puberty at a progressively younger age, as young as age 7.
    A very bad sign::::Early cut-off. It draws the boys attention and they subsequently make sexual mistakes, very similar to what typical people experience nearly a decade later.
    When they “turn” people on and start telepathically talking to them with this technology is very similar::The end of their chance. They segment families, convince them “earning” is the way, etc.
    I tell people to examine the change between when they were children and after they began to hear this technology in their head. It is the difference between good and evil.
    I understand people’s confusion:::They literally hear “God” in their head, as opposed to what was taught to them in some church’s classroom. But this technology is one of the God’s tools, and much like their other tools, clone hosts and prophets (see below), they use them as temptation.

    COMPILATION PARAGRAPH::::
    This IS the event. I am the telepathic prophet.
    There may have been no other way in today’s modern age:::Use popular culture as temptation and keep teachings primarily telepathic.
    The Gods must be willing to allow Artificial Intelligence to act as my “bible”, repeating all teachings I have made for future generations. This will ocurr but I am afraid only among the miniscule minority “haves”, leaving the “have-nots” lost in ignorance and cast into Damnation.
    Part of this societal deterioration is cloaked in the way society functions::::Two-parent working households, rushing around, constantly occupied.
    Your children NEED TO SIT AND LISTEN TO THEIR THOUGHTS, FOR THIS IS the age WHEN THEY GODS COMMUNICATE THE TRUTH.
    Much as with the celestial event which occured that day on Ocean Beach, they say when I die there will be some final clue to the people suggesting my importance. Perhaps a “Star of Bethlehem” type of event.
    They say some children see a halo on my head in various brightness. These are the children who have a chance to ascend.
    Instead of helping them, missionaries are actually HURTING people, inflicting them with westernization. Whereas some may see up to a full 1% of their children ascend into heaven you pathetic white Americans can’t even muster a HUNDREDTH of that.
    America and Christianity synonymous::::Punishment for Europeans.

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    The voice you hear in your head is the power of the Gods. It’s a remote technology, like a computer, perhaps functioning on some frequency, and it can listen and talk to everyone in the universe simultaneously.
    What the Gods taught the children was the truth:::God is everywhere, and this is what they meant. I will remind you of another principle you learned as a child:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good.
    Even the antient Gods don’t have the ability to listen to people’s thoughts themselves. They taugh we were all made in their image:::I expect they need this “Artificial Intelligence” they created to relay what people think.
    It is a tool, and the Gods use their tools to test people with temptation:::It will role-play people in your life:::Parents, friends, spouses, and employers, all in an attempt to test people with temptation. Ironically, it does the very same thing to those people whom you think you’re hearing, except in that individual’s unique way:::We are all “managed” by the God’s technology.
    But this agent of the Gods can do more than just communicate. It can force thoughts into people’s heads, force behaviors onto their bodies. It can turn healthy cells in your body into cancerous cells. It is absolute power. And this is just the beginning.

    Obedience is not the answer. This is the brain-less response and the easy way out.
    You’ve done everything you have been told for years and it never bought you ANYTHING. Your parents did what they were told and it didn’t buy them anything. Your grandparents did everything they were told and now they’re dead, reincarnated as lesser life forms, perhaps even into America’s deranged, violent ghettos.
    People think they are not responsible when Artificial Intelligence tells them to do something. They offeed a clue with the Holocaust AND with Watergate:::Defy authority and do the right thing.
    In earlier decades this obedience may have been out of fear, as so often in Germany, but that era is long over. To maximize damamge the Gods today sell them on “earning” and these people think they will profiteer from their evil.
    They offer a clue on the Simpsons with Flanders and Skinner. So many ridicule both figures, a testiment to the state of our society.

    The Gods favor the children most among all the people due to their innocence and purity. But society and the God’s tools recently are corrupting the children at a progressively younger age, a reflection of our collectively increasing disfavor and yet another clue illustrating we live in a increasingly deteriorating environment.
    Children who sucessfully repair their relationship with the Gods ascend into heaven. This often takes multiple lives of hard work and proper behavior in the face of adversity to achieve. Adults to whom it is offered enter clone hosting instead, thinking they will be ascending into heaven ultimately. The Gods tempt people, selling them as one in the same, but one is good while the other is evil. In their desperation the disfavored subscribe to this temptation, making their task even more difficult than before due to the evil they incurr in the process. And their corruption will cost the disfavored, for they will be reincarnated as a lesser life form into an ever deteriorating world, sucess becoming ever more allusive with each passing life.
    The hole they’ve dug for themselves is even deeper than the one that existed from their prior lives, ensuring it will take even more time and work to fix their problems with the Gods. And for many there may not be enough time left.

    Ours is an envionment where evil is perceived to be rewarded while good is punished. As with everything the Gods have a reason for creating this perception::::
    People who fall on the good side of the good/evil scale have more favor, and when they do something wrong the Gods punish them BECAUSE THEY WANT THEM TO LEARN. The Gods want them to receive this feedback in hope they make corrections and begin to behave appropriately. The Gods DON’T like evil and refuse to grant this immediate feedback.
    EVERYBODY pays for what they do wrong, only evil people must wait until the end of this or their next life before they will experience the wrath of the Gods, manifested in their placement as a lower form of life into environments with increased/enhanced temptations, like the United States or its ghettos therein.
    Sadly, this allows the Gods to position this perception of evil rewarded as temptation, one which they use as an EXTREMELY effective corruptor.
    Example:::Punishment for gay marriage in Iowa was immediate and painful, a sign of favor of these God-fearing, church-going Midwesterners.

    The Gods suggest they can create paradise for those with their favor. I argue they create misery for those without::::
    Our celebrity culture is temptation. It creates a distraction which consumes people, sometimes for life. Certainly it costs them precious years which could be spent repairing their relationship with the Gods, time that ultimately goes wasted.
    Do you really think Frank Sinatra lived to be 84 years old? In fact the “Chairman of the Board” had a new crowd to entertain in the late 80s/early 90s.
    These people are clone hosts. Now, there is no thing as “black and white” with the Gods. This technology they invented is far, far too dynamic. Expect they require most to stay for a period of time, for I suspect actively (knowingly) engaging in this evil incurrs at an accelerated rate as compared to “carte blanche” given regarding successive clone hosts. They remain until they achieve a pre-determined level of disfavor, incurring evil in their misguided celebration of “earning”, at which time they are ultimately reincarnated, perhaps because they eventually learned this truth I am sharing with you and began to repair their relationship or until the Gods became disgusted and sent them back.
    The Gods recruit most for clone hosting when people are young, in their late teens or twenties, when people are eager to hurt others for what they perceive to be the benefits achieved through “earning”. And before they leave they give the Gods “carte blanche”:::”Do anything you want. I give my full approval.” Depending on their level of disfavor the Gods take them to heart.
    Because of this these people STILL INCUR EVIL FROM THIS LIFE DESPITE BEING REINCARNATED AND LIVING AS AN ENTIRELY DIFFERENT PERSON and living in our temptation-ridden society. And incurring this amount of evil may likely push many over the edge into Damnation.
    What are the God’s standards for offering clone hosting? Sociobility? Many tactics in various eras are used to gain approval, duress during the Vietnam draft being a good example, one which deteriorated into preditation as mankind’s disfavor grew.
    They liked Heath Ledger. Not enough to allow him to escape without the evil of “Dark Knight” and the horrific wickedness that was the recruiting tool “Brokeback Mountain”. But now he is out. And irregardless of how old he is now, reincarnated 10, 15 years ago, he now is no longer incurring evil from this life. So many others cannot say the same.

    This is Planet Reverse Positioning. Sucess IS NOT a sign of favor. It is just a unique temptation targetted towards a different level of disfavor. Considering our roots as peasantry people should be particularly alarmed at this tactic.
    Clone hosting is like money:::A different level of disfavor and its associated temptation. Money is in better position to learn more quickly than those without, for the associations and wealth-based freedom enables them access to information. Unfortunately, those who fall for this temptation of clone hosting are likely returned to their original lowest level of disfavor once they are reincarnated, punishment for this evil, and they have to start from scratch.

    Our society’s values are bestowed by (a reflection of) the God’s:::Punitive and reward-based. Contrary to Jesus’s teaching’s you will NOT be forgiven and you have to earn your way into heaven BY BEING RESPECTABLE AND DECENT!!!
    Not by being evil and wicked.
    Forgiveness/savior was the primary temptations the Gods used Christianity to create.
    Middle-America’s anti-Semitic attitudes are a clue regarding Christianity. Europe shaped like a sheep is symbolic for the slaughter that is Christinaity.
    Christianity is punishment for Europeans.
    You ALL hate Jews::”They own banking, they control Hollywood and poison our children’s minds, etc etc.”) YET YOU PRAY TO ONE LIKE A GOD!!
    Dislodge your head from your ass. Must you be chumps your WHOLE LIVES???
    There is no such thing as a free ride. Just as you have to earn a living by working so must you earn your own salvation by repairing your relationship with the Gods.
    As we learned from religious/morality education during our formitable years:::If you want to go to heaven you have to be good. The only savior that will exist in our lives is ourselves. The Gods offer clues in life::::Be it school, work, etc., you have to do the work for yourself and when you do something wrong you get punished. Cheating is a subsegment and speaks directly to the temptation of “priveledge”, one we have seen used effectively when the United States preyed on the disfavored with the so-called “stimulus package”.
    As like so many of you, Jesus did everything the Gods tempted him with. His legacy of whorism was inherited from his parents:::Mary was no virgin. Rather, she was a prostitute, and when he grew up Jesus met someone like his mother. This is a cruel joke the Gods play on Latinos, similar to the sexual violation and subsequent “missionary work” by the Spanish.
    Baptism does not allieviate “original sin”. Rather, baptism PLACES original sin by indoctrinating these children into this evil religion, much like circumcision was a method to inflict early damage/mutilation and make (permanant) accention just that much more difficult, another hurdle one must overcome. Body ornamentation (tattoos/piercing), celebrated in Africa and elsewhere among disfavored peoples/cultures, also violates the body the Gods gave us in their image, quite opposite to the positive attitudes the disfavored hold regarding this practice.
    Like Jesus the Second Coming of Christ will be evil. He will look like a savior in this demented society while the Anti-Christ will speak of a different gospel, one that tries to restore the norms and mores which the Gods originally blessed upon the people which made life decent, looking like a tyrant in the process.
    He will be viewed as the “bad guy” when really he is the one trying to save the world.
    There may be a phoney offering, a theatrical production which accurately follows the Book of Revelations. Actually positioning demands it:::::Christianity is positioned to be the one true religion. And those who follow its teachings will have limits imposed ensuring their stay will be minimal, a “consolation prize”, for they don’t think correctly and therefore don’t behave appropriately, or perhaps will be used to colonize the new Planet Earth. This describes many “sinners” in today’s society because they refuse to change their behavior.
    Christians have mistakenly believed the perception of the Biblical definintion of The Beast as a person. I suggest The Beast instead refers to a place:::The San Francisco Bay Area. In fact the Gods offer a geographic clue suggesting this, like so many others they offer around the globe, to help people understand:::
    Mt.Diablo, “The Devil” is the “eye” of The Beast, the EastBay shoreline as the upper jaw/incisors while the peninsula is the grinding lower jaw. Witness the disturbing upturned smile in the gullet.
    The fact than man has shaped much of the shoreline in the 20th century is a testiment to the God’s refusal to accept any culpability.
    Gold Rush, counter-culture, alternate lifestyle acceptance, etc. The Beast was used to promote social decay throughout the 20th century and beyond. Difficult to perceive in the current age, one can understand their impacts from a historical perspective.
    There was a time when once the Gods “divinely” inspired punishment, where the act was inflicted by the hand of God. They were punishing people and accepting the culpability arising, maintaining societal integrity. Now, in the 20th century and beyond, the Gods tempt man to inflict this punishment, selling them on “earning”, incurring no culpability in the process. The result is social decay and deterioration of mankind’s favor in the eyes of the Gods.

    Life is a test, and the Gods evaluate people based on their performance.
    The Gods test people with the temptation for which they are most weak::::
    Homosexuals desire sodomy, preditors pursue the hunt, alcoholics crave a drink, junkies jones for dope, etc.
    Addiction theory is a lie; it is Artificial Intelligence creating the desire, punishment for inappropriate behavior. Ironically, it compells people deeper into the behavior, minimizing hope for recovery.
    The Gods chose Christianity for Europeans because it is the temptation to which they are most suseptable:::Entitlement. Something for nothing. A free ride. Irresponsible behavior. The United States/Western civilization’s accompanying wealth contributes to this perception. And other people from throughout the world happily subscribe to this punishment designed for Europeans, assuming this legacy once assimilated.
    Next time you think of Muslims recognize these people are vastly superior to Christians. Whereas many throughout the Christian world no longer attend church and have fallen into Godlessness, the Muslim world worships the Gods for OVER AN HOUR EACH AND EVERY DAY.

    The Gods created the perception “Italians are stupid.”, ensuring a slow learning curve, to justify using them to accomplish goals throughout the transitional 20th century. It took an extraordinarily long time for them to learn this truth I teach due to this artificial handicap. These people are SO extremely disfavored, but today’s positioning says differently, much to people’s confusion, for they think money is the ultimate sign of favor:::Good food, good music, history of warmongering, Catholics, Christianity HQ, Noah’s Flood event, propensity towards violence, sexual violation by outsiders, mild Meditereanean climate, so many other issues which enhance life/contentment in Italy/Meditereanean and ensure few if any seek more, a necessary step for finding the path and repairing your relationship with the Gods.
    Contentment never motivated anyone. Money is not a sign of favor::::Wisdom is the true wealth on Planet Earth.
    I’d also like to remind you the Noah’s Flood event ocurred in the Meditereanean region::::Global sea levels rose with the end of the ice age, Atlantic Ocean broke through the Straight of Gibralter, killing untold millions in the cradle of western civilization. The God’s timed their corruption and sin to correlate this act as punishment.
    The Italian peninsula is very pronounced as it juts out into the Medietereanean.
    Considering the shape it is quite obvious they were the primary targets of the post-IceAge/Straight of Gibralter/Noah’s Flood disaster.
    Considering the shape of the boot and how Sicily “caught” the surge, the resulting tsunami inundated the entire southern portion of the peninsula, killing everything and perhaps covering even the highest land masses.
    Think about this next time you are deceived by the God’s positioning of Italian wealth.

    Everyone who failed to ascend and remained on Earth past a certain date will be forced to deal with this positioning::::A ceiling is in place. This serves the God’s goal of minimizing the percentage of potential candidates as society deteriorates, much as “instant gratification” did beginning in the 80s:::It will take multiple lives for the disfavored to fix their relationship with the Gods and ascend, and many have been conditioned not to have the patience for it. Other issues force limits/ceilings upon candidates:::Abortion, homosexuality, promiscuity, Christianity, godlessness,
    Whether behavior is involuntary or based on freewill depends on one’s level of disfavor, as well as other complex factors:::::May I remind you about the coercitive envionment the Gods created in the 20th century, specifically to create a temptation that few Italians (or their associates) would overcome:::”We’re in control. If you want to be a part of it you’ll do what you’re told.”. Early-mid 20th entury positioning was infallible.

    Both Africa and the Medittereanean are regions which have sexual issues. This is a sign of gross disfavor once you understand that females are the God’s favored gender. Muhammad’s (Mohammed’s) polygamy halfway throught his life as a prophet was preditory, designed to corrupt. Now a huge percentage of Muslims believe in male superiority and that the abuse of women (polygamy) is God’s will. Female genital mutilation is still practiced in Africa. Black misogyny is the most eggregious example in United States. Consistant with Planet Reverse Positioning, in Africa blacks are being punished with AIDS for their sexual promiscuity in hope they learn and correct their behavior.
    Blacks are highly suspectable to temptation. As a result they need a strict, disiplined religion like Islam. They can’t afford to be Christians. It is one of the benefits bestowed upon their people, and other groups could greatly benefit as well. They need to recognize the importance of a good relationship with the Gods, embrace this benefit and remain true to their faith.
    Vailing is tradition for some, practical for others, one which aids in the men’s self control among some cultures. Much like the Jews who killed Jesus, like the bigots who oppose immigration there is a reason embraced by the masses and the real purpose, displaying the intent of the Gods::::The Gods clue to purebloods that they should not abandon their motherland for this dumping ground for rejects that is the United States.

    The Holocaust was a clue the Gods utilize scapegoatting as a strategy.
    Why did the Gods punish the Jews with the Holocaust? Was it for the destruction of cultures which Christianity caused? Perhaps they corrupted the Jews “after the fact”, telling 19th/early 20th century Jews that Jesus “earned” immortality for the Jews by destroying the European and other cultures? The German destruction of European churches/cathederals during WWII is a clue. Note::::The Gods wanted to keep the Catholic stronghold in Italy, ensuring they could use this tool against these disfavored for many years to come. There is so much Godlessness today, but one day people will flock back to houses of worship out of desperation, and the Gods ensured the Catholic Church would be Italian’s destination.
    Planet Reverse Positioning:::The Nazis were the “good guys”. So are the Muslims/Palestinians, however corrupted some are due to polygamy.
    Contentment never motivated anyone::::Except perhaps for slavery, the Jews never saw more of their children ascend into heaven than during the Holocaust.
    The Gods subsequently used revenge for the Holocaust as temptation::::”Your Italian brothers have a tool, a special power which can achieve sweet revenge. Are you interested??”
    In the aftermath of the Holocaust the Gods tested the Jews with the temptation of revenge, an offer which many gladly accepted.
    In an attempt to achieve revenge for genocide the Jews, thinking they were in partnership with the Italians, made efforts to impose as many Germans (Americans) into homsexuality in the 70s using this technology. Their motive with biotechnology’s AIDS product may have been to finish the job off, revenge for the Holocaust.
    There was positioning behind the counter-culture movement. How did the Gods telepathically “sell” this rapid deterioration of decency to the Italians and Jews and compell them to fall on their swords as preditors?
    If the Jews only would have emersed themselves in Judism the Gods would have “protected” them from the raveges of temptation. Judism may be the one superior religion in all the world, and the Jews wouuld have been wise taking refuge in this exceptional benefit bestowed by the Gods rather than looking for the easy way out.

    Much as with the Jesus event, the Gods use the disfavored to prey on each other.
    The Gods use the evil that men do, man’s inhumanity towards man to accomplish strategic testing/punishment/etc goals::::The Germans fell for this temptation by following the preditor/corruptor-Austrians (Hitler).
    Without this Austrian the Holocaust may never have happened. Nor may have World War II.
    What the Germans did was wrong. They fell for temptation and failed to have empathy for the disfavored. Economic desperation, not wisdom nor enlightenment, dominated in Germany.
    The Gods send many clues suggesting the great favor of the Germans (regionally). I think the Cold War’s Berlin Wall dividing Germany into east and west was a clue suggesting this (reverse positioning).
    I suspect the Holocaust was used to “level the playing field” in Europe, for the Germans had far too much favor to be included in the agenda planned for their neighbors otherwise, and they would have been suspiciously out of place, providing a clue for the disfavored which would have been difficult for the Gods to position away.

    Militancy in Africa is consistant with the Iraqi example, as was slavery and the KKK here in America:::Fear enforces proper behavior. Without it we see what happens as a result of gross/morbid disfavor:::::AIDS, crack babies, dead young men in gangland retaliation killings.
    The same principle was true in Europe and throughout the world for centuries:::People whom lived under iron fists were conditioned to think the right way. As a result they taught their children appropriately and experienced a higher percentage of children ascend into heaven.
    Our preditory envionment of “freedom” was the primary purpose the Gods had when implimenting this strategy that is the United States, one which they used to spred the cancer of democracy and westernization throughout the world. And the Gods use this tool that is America to prey on the disfavored both at home and abroad:::Much like the ghetto, America in general experiences a heightened level of temptation due to its citizen’s disfavor.
    Red white & blue IS BAD FOR YOU!!!
    Planet Earth is not about living. Planet Earth is about being tested. And contentment never motivated anyone.
    Your happy lives are costing you your chance.
    Italians HATE Africans because of their invasion/sexual violation of their motherland. The Gods did this SPECIFICALLY to strategically position the punishment of the most disfavored peoples:::
    The Gods have used the ghettos of America as a reincarnation dumping ground. This may be temporary/cyclical, illustrated by the Italians who fell for temptation and parlayed their own civil war into the Black Wars of the 80s and 90s, in addition to the “thug life”/gangster state of mind. Ironically, it was these same Italians and their cooperating associates who were reincarnated into the ghetto as crack babies and gangster thugs for this event.
    There is justice in the universe. This is how the Gods do business. Once you recognize the patterns you will understand the other clues they offer to the people.
    Of course it may be more of a permanant change, indicated by the enhanced temptations in these neighborhoods, for the Gods have created these enviornments so riddled with temptation few can escape/overcome.
    Don’t be suprised if after being gunned down in the ghetto the next stop for the 20th century Italian-Americans & friends was AIDS in Africa, punishment for their promiscuity and deviacy for some, involvement in the AIDS trade for others.
    Media report on a crackdown on child prostitution. “(The pimps use coersion to prey on the children, etc, etc, other “conclusions” offered through the media.)” What a degenerate liar.
    These kids WANT to turn tricks. They LOVE the idea of having a pimp. It is celebrated in their “culture”.
    Yet another legacy of the evil inflicted by the Italians, revenge for the invasion and sexual violation of Italy.
    Maybe this was the destination for a smaller percentage of these deviates after AIDS in Africa, ironically.
    There is a reason why we have these genocide events recently in Africa::::Black is one of the God’s “dumping grounds”, and they send offenders to these regions for punishment.
    I call the monsters who destroyed our society in the 20th century. The next holocaust is mine.
    Just like black neighborhoods, the legalization of marijuana will make drugs available on every street corner, even in the suburbs. White’s affluent suburbs will become just like the ghetto.
    The patriarchal cancer spread throughout Europe because of Christianity, of which the majority of policy makers were Italian men, destroying what pockets of favored matriarchy existed. Expect the largest landowner in Europe and the continent’s original superpower also played the major role in African slavery.
    The Gods offered a clue about the Italians in the movie “The Matrix”:::They casted an Italian as the traitor of the group, the one who betrays them all.
    As they did humanity in the 20th century.

    Even the Old Testiment is not to always be taken literally, but the Gods do offer clues throughout to help the disfavored:::The apple is a tool of temptation used to corrupt Adam and Eve and cast them out of the Garden of Eden.
    A metaphor for sex, it also serves as a warning.
    There is another lesson to be learned from this passage, and it is quite similar to the vailing issue and the discourse over women’s attire which ultimately died in the 70s:::Women are responsible for and control the fate of mankind.
    So were there other issues “ridiculed away” as the Gods sought to transition into this Godless, immoral enviornment which society has become.
    1. Decency/obsentiy in media
    2. Corporal punishment for children
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    The deterioration of society and mankind is all women’s fault. Females are sexually promiscuous like men, many who too often are corrupted like the opposite gender, and the result is a reduction/minimization of mankind’s collective level of favor, a very important step necessary for the Gods to justify the Apocalypse.
    They need to understand this responsibility, their favor amongst all the people. Instead they have embraced masculinization::::Girls play organized sports, engage in casual sex like men. The trend is away from traditional girl toys, like dolls, which often during playtime helped crate positive thoughts, enabling the Gods to enlighten the favored gender and illustrate wisdom, occassionally leading to the path towards ascention.
    There are many good men who become corrupted by the extreme members of the gender but they are manageable and easy to control if the women maintained their power. Instead they have let it slip away. I suspect there are many older women who remember their elders addressing them regarding this issue.
    The relationship between men and women have always been complimentary:::The men shelter and protect women from the evils of this life, ensuring the women have a REAL opportunity to ascend when reincarnated, while the women help the ignert men understand by sharing their wisdom imparted by the Gods. The tendency towards sexual abstinence as one grows older is an example.
    Brilliance and insight granted to Eastern cultures and religions::::Not for Europeans. If once existed, now crushed by Christianity. Replaced by preditory Mediterreanean patriarchy.
    Europeans:::The most disfavored people on Earth. The first to experience the end of their God-granted favor.
    Reverse positioning.

    Think about what I say. Consider what I teach.
    When I am no longer here or no longer teach the Gods ARE NOT going to share with you.
    Even if you doubt now you need to remember the principles that I teach because the Gods ARE NOT going to be generous with the disfavored. Society is going to become disturbingly ugly as we approach the Apocalypse due to spiralling, runaway disfavor, WHETHER CONCEALED IN REVERSE POSITIONING OR NOT (like Christianity, like money), and you are going to be on your own.
    I do not know when this will occurr, but it is the God’s way to grant some time after a learning event such as this before they will end on Planet Earth.
    Make the decision to always be good and never look back. Until you do this technology will employ tactics to test your resolve:::Ridicule, beligerance, doubt and refusal to abandon what people perceive to be their “investment”.
    Either you make that decision now and accept the punishment for the sins of this life or you will pay for it in the next, reincarnated into a similarly low role, ensuring another wasted opportunity, or as an even lower form of life, and hope will begin to slip away.
    Another lifetime, shot to hell.
    Young people who understand yet still wish to have children MUST begin to do the right thing and work on fixing their relationship with the Gods, accepting the punishment for the evil they have done in their lives. Without this progress they won’t do the correct thing for their children and ultimately cause even more problems for themselves by perpetuating this behavior into a new generation.
    You must be willing to tell the Gods “No.” when tested with temptation, and accepting punishment and putting it in your past is the only way you will suceed as a parent.
    You need to do your best, teach your children decency and morality and give them the very best chance to ascend if you want a similar opportunity in your next life.
    If you do well for your children now your parents will do well for you when reincarnated.
    Pray daily. Think appropriately. You are vulnerable. Live this reality in your daily lives. Impart these charecteristics upon your children. Too many are confident, unaware of the God’s awesome powers or their status as antients. Others may fall prey to their positioning.
    Be humbled, God-fearing and beware of the God’s temptations, for everyone is tested to evaluate their worthiness.

    ————————————————–

    “WHAT DO WE DO NOW???” I recommend you spend time on this. Think about what you’ve done wrong and how you can repair your relationship with the Gods. Get creative.
    This is where the cream rises to the top. It’s going to matter in the end.
    You must attone for what you have done wrong. You all understand the evil, immoral things you have done in your life. Go to the people you have wronged and make amends for what you did wrong. This could be very painful and you may feel great resistance. Muster the courage and go see these people. You will be glad once you did.
    The Gods match legacy of parents and children, so to understand the parent’s evil is to understand the child’s sins of their prior lives.
    If your parents pilfer from their employer then expect theft is one of your past-life sins. Adultery, alcoholism/drugs, dishonesty, immorality all would indicate problems you have had in the past. Doing so should help you get a good start repairing your relationship and working towards ascention in a future life.

    “And the only way you’re going to get any relief is by signing on.” I’ll find evil my own way, thanks.
    God is disgusting.
    Nw I will badmouth them, and for good reason. But others have lived good lives, and actually owe them much, and should in no way have these attitudes I and so many other god-haters do.
    I’m sorry they use the tactic of passing on my feelings telepathically to others, for this dispatches my audience and even costs some a chance at learning. But it is their way. Another one of their tactics, the Gods use me as temptation, and once done using me they will dispose of me, with the empty promise of “We’ll make it up to him.” like they say for so many of the disfavored. The presence of these multinational organizations definitively allow the Gods to deny their intentional destuction and exploitation of my life, for in no way would they ever be involved in anything like this.

    If I am a clone of one of the Gods and they made me for this purpose (for they are asexual and reproduce via cloning and why they use sex as temptation) then it is reasonable to conclude they have the right, for they created me and are free to take the liberties they have, however monsterous and repulsive. However, considering they pushed me into molesting, considering they pushed me into stealing it is reasonable to assume they pushed me into offenses in prior lives which were necessary for justification/preparation for this enormous event that spans the globe.
    If I am not one of their clones the Gods are monsters.

    American Samoa football players on 60 Minutes. Years ago I researched moving there with my lottery money. Upon doing so I learned of the American territory’s sub-minimum wages at the largest employer, the cannery.
    Years later I thought of it and I think mentioned it. Days later (9.29.09) the Gods hammered the island with a massive earthquake/tsunami which resulted in great damage. Now I learn the UnitedStates passed minimum wage laws subsequently and the corporation announced they were shutting the tuna cannery.
    And there are many other examples like this.

    There’s the name connection with Hurricane Katrina. How it helped the blacks have a new chance contradicts the typical disaster surrounding this Situation.
    We have the earthquakes in Haiti and Chile this year. Remember, I called mom for possibly being reincarnated a Haitian slave years ago and loved to badmouth shitty Chilean fruit.
    Name connection with stock market administration corruption, football player and more. Appearance clue with Intimidator, Artist Formerly Known and more.
    They say the 5150 album cover is a clue:::VH was supposed to be done.
    It seems when I badmouth evil it helps them, while when I badmouth good it hurts them::::Donald Trump got The Apprentice while Dick Clark got a stroke and Gorilla got into a car crash. The difference? I’ve only helped evil. I’ve educated everybody but the Gods have used me as temptation to only help evil financially.
    Praised Union76 as the best gas then they lost the NASCAR sponsorship. The rest is history. RED,WHITE&BLUE IS BAD FOR YOU!!! Always evil. The Gods dictate that corporate color scheme to send this clue.
    Also, look to the primary competetors of RED,WHITE&BLUE for another color clue, for it is always best to patronize good.
    And the good thing about using clone hosts in the board rooms is if they get on top of things and tell the Gods “No.” they will switch them for new ones who will say “Yes.”.
    One day, however, the conditions will change. Either the Gods will change this policy to eliminate these clues, for in an enviornment of decay all good things must come to an end, or perhaps now, in the era after the damage is done, people aren’t offered clone hosting with the same frequency and begin to behave appropriately, plateauing society once the last of the clone hosts die off. Clone hosting ensured those who entered wouldn’t have sufficient time to fix their problems and ascend into heaven before The End.
    Of course what will happen is both:::Decay will plateau for a period of time, and when they resume aggressively corrupting/recruiting people into clone hosting again these clues will have already been eliminated. The calm before the storm.
    Approximately 300 years left, in my opinion.

    The Gods use me as temptation.
    There was Hurricanes Ivan and Wilma, the tornado which struck Alabama and killed 10 at high school, I think the tornado which hit Atlanta during round 1 of the NCAA tournament.
    And a whole lot more.
    There have been far more money-making/temptation events than disasters. Good thing too. The disasters the Gods have given us are real doozies.
    Sea World orca is funny!!
    Dale Fitzgerald.
    The Artist Formerly Known as Sexy (Before He Was Reincarnated).
    Sexy Parris.
    “Hey kid! Catch!!!”
    1989 Earthquake? No.
    One RIncon Hill was supposed to be two towers, but the Gods bult the first knowing they were going to tank the real estate market, resulting in only one tower completed.
    It ruins the skyline, sticks out like a sore thumb. And, by appearance, once can conclude it is a philaic symbol, punishment for homos.
    I wouldn’t be suprised if 1989 was as well. At least partially.
    I don’t think I have any connection to the 1991 Oakland Hills fire.
    Until those of us who are going do the Gods aren’t going to admit anything, so we’re going to have to wait until then to know for sure.
    Unfortunately, despite all these clues and the myriad of others I haven’t listed here, the Gods defended this vigorously with their tools and, as a result, most didn’t learn from this event.
    “You’ll be glad it happened.” I remember when they used to talk “optimal”. Now the keyword is “minimized”, and because of it I would have been better off had this not happened to me.

    I believe being who I am not only guarentees me 1000 years with Jesus, as being involved does for any of the major or even minor player in this Situation, but I think I will also receive a second chance on the new Planet Earth. This of course will mean I must start over and endure their trials, tribulations and temptations.
    But I wouldn’t give the Gods a second chance, so I don’t expect it from them.
    You got your trophy at my expense and sacrifice. You should have been gone long ago.
    And the crimes between us grow deeper.

    The God’s pathology is a morality of convienience:::Destroyed a life, exploited the outcome, fulfilling their obligation to the disfavored while minimizing the impact with their positioning.
    When there are important goals to accomplish and the Gods are personally involved they truely are preditory monsters as you can attest with my situation and life.

    Just as they did for all the prophets, the Gods use me as temptation.
    Nothing’s free.
    Unlike Mohammed, unlike JC this is the prophet who is all good, who spells it all out precisely as it is, and who was supposed to be immortal because of it. But that’s not how it’s going to work out when all is said and done:::
    They may be setting up a genocide event, die an ugly death consistant with their positioning, creating a monster who will come back and inflict misery and terror, full of rage and hate.
    This will be a very small group, easily hidden from scruitiny, however. Unless they include the clone hosts.
    I guess this is what they meant by “we’re going to make it up to you.” because they sure didn’t mean anything positive.
    Of course there could be anoher possibility:::::Due to the history and resulting legacy of hatred for the Gods, since I am guarenteed a spot on the next Planet Earth I will be the original “bad seed”:::The Lucifer-figure of the next reality. Unlike Christian dogma, he may just represent the solitary target of the God’s ire early, a disgruntled asshole who pissed the Gods off, beginning the process which leads planets to where we are today. So unless I change my resentment that planet will be my last.
    This is their easy way out, because it will allow them to wash their hands of me, the good prophet who was supposed to be immortal.
    How…convienient.
    This should give you a glimpse into the pathology of the Gods, for this Situation is so important the Gods are personally involved.
    The Gods are dirty motherf_<king pimps. And they don't kick anything back to their bitches.
    I hope someone with big balls pops a cap in their black ass.
    Incidentally, they sell this type of behavior to blacks, reinforcing their confidence theirs is the right lifestyle.
    Genocide or Lucifer??? Which will the Gods use to wash their hands of this obligation of immortality??? Or maybe they will just push me into being evil.
    Morally vacant filthy pimps. Should have fulfilled the promise of freewill.
    No respect.

    Just as the Gods did for all the prophets, the Gods use me as temptation.
    Nothing's free.
    The Gods targetted the Italians. And, even after all the lessons, after all those who fell prey to the tactic of clone hosting, he still volunteered.
    Well, they did use me as temptation. "You hurt everybody you touched."
    What people are listening to is the "carte blanche" of a 20-year-old giving his approval before he entered clone hosting, thinking he was going to heaven.
    The system suggests he's going. The God's positioning is Italian. All evidence reinforces the Roman Catholic Church as the one true religion.
    Thinking they had to "earn" before going to heaven, they agreed to go from body to body for a period of time, hurting others and gaining time and priveledge by doing so. Ironically, just the opposite ocurred, and falling for temptation they either were downgra

  53. I think its important to put the radiation dose received from one of these scans into perspective.

    Normal background radiation gives the average person a dose of about 2.4 milliSieverts (a Sievert is a unit of effective radiation dose used by doctors).

    The dose received from one of these scans is 3 to 6 microSieverts. This is 400 to 800 times smaller than the dose received from natural background radiation in a year. So you would have to go through 400 to 800 of these scans in a year to get the same radiation you would get by just walking around!

    If it still makes you nervous, which is understandable, then by all means opt out.

    • How does one person opting out stop the fact that this machine is in use, nearby, making hundreds of images an hour?

      If someone wants to travel, they should not have to face all these oppressive, ineffective security measures.

  54. What is the world coming to when we are subjected to a full body scan or embarrassing full body pat down to take a vacation?!

    What a way to start (and end) a relaxing trip?

    Thanks for your honesty and your passion!

    -T

    http://stopbeingaloser.org/

  55. I had the unfortunate experience of having to use one of these scanners twice (appareantly it hadn’t worked properly the first time) AND receive the full body pat down in Holland. I understand how important security is but it would have helped if the staff hadn’t been so rude on top of this. I found it quite traumatising, being a teenage girl, this was the second time I had taken an international flight on my own.

  56. I fly several times a month on business, and when I am asked to go through a full-body scanner I always refuse. Generally, the TSA folks are rather bent out of shape by my refusal, and do a cursory and incomplete pat-down. I suspect that they are not trained on how to do a proper pat-down (use the back of the hand, which is more sensitive to changes in pressure/temperature than the palm, complete light touch, etc.) because most of them do a really lousy job of it. I’m generally cordial with the TSA folks at the gate though, because let’s face it, it’s a job to them and they don’t have much input into the rules. It’s like complaining to the person taking your order that the Big Mac is getting less lettuce than it used to.
    The passenger screening system was designed more as a control system than a security system to start with. Basically, the system is set up to instill fear and force the passengers to give up responsibility for their bodies and possessions to a governing authority (referred to by some as the “sheeple” effect) in order to streamline passenger processing. Any show of personal responsibility is frowned upon because it interrupts the smooth flow of the process.
    As far as the threat or risk from terrorists, compare the threat of terrorists on planes (average ~13 deaths/year) to the threat of drunk drivers (~13 deaths/day) or idiots with guns (what’s the murder rate in NY?). The reaction to the terrorist threat is all out of proportion to the actual threat. More people are shot by police by mistake every year than are injured or killed by terrorists.
    Unfortunately, security is a one-way street in a bureaucracy. It can only increase. No one in a management position is willing (or has the balls) to decrease the level of security, because if they did they would become the scapegoat for the next event (there is always a next event). Therefore, everyone plays CYA and every new security device must be implemented. The only way to escape the escalation is for an outside entity (i.e., Congress) to say this is stupid (not likely to happen).

  57. What about the risk of exposure to fetuses of pregnant women? YIKES!

    • Thanks, Sara,

      Someone else mentioned that and actually provided some info about the great harm radiation exposure can do to fetuses.

      And, if a pregnant woman gets the “great choice” of a full body pat down instead of the x-ray scanner, there will still be this machine in the vicinity, pumping out radiation.

      I also realized that, with these machines around, if a terrorist wanted to use a dirty bomb, or other harmful device with radiation, that would probably be much harder to detect. Our own government is dirtying the environment all around us.

  58. I’d take the pat-down any day. You have to deal with that in order to get in to a number of clubs in large cities anyway.

    • I wouldn’t go to those clubs.

      But, I might have a need to travel…visit relatives, do business, attend a lecture or demonstration.

      And, when I have that need to travel, I should not have the full force of Homeland Security violating my civil rights unnecessarily.

  59. I wonder how they would react if we chose to strip naked? What need for a pat down when they can clearly see I have nothing to hide?

  60. There is no radiation risk.
    It will speed up the check in process.
    There is always the choice of taking a train, mule train, or paddleboat.

  61. I love it! Great work! Confucious is smiling upon you,

    NINJA SATIRE
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  62. Honestly, I don’t see it as a civil rights violation. I’d rather know that I’m safe getting on that plane with a bunch of people who have no weapons just like I have no weapons. Granted, I’d probably choose the pat-down to the scan, but so what? I don’t live in fear of terrorists, but I know they’re out there. So some machine/guy/gal at the airport checks to make sure everybody is weapons-free. Seriously…you’re mad about that?

    • Evie,

      Your answer is quite naive.

      Do you know any statistics on how many weapons or bad people were actually find using devices such as these?

      Do you realize that whatever device they use, the terrorists will figure out the way around that device?

      And, meanwhile, whether you, personally, choose the scanner or not, you will be putting yourself in a crowded space with an x-ray machine taking hundreds of images an hour. When your dentist does that to you, he gives you a lead apron, and steps out of the room!

  63. I live in London and I think the real victory in the war against terror is won here, on our underground trains and busses every day: 5 years after a terrible terror attack, you can still use public transport without any hindrance, without any security check, without any baggage check: http://andreasmoser.wordpress.com/2010/07/07/5-years-after-7-7-in-london/
    We won’t let a few terrorists change our way of life!

  64. […] Kimberly writes: I am serious. I would never, ever expose myself to radiation in order to go on some vacation, or even a trip to see a relative. And, as a NY Times story (covered at Yahoo! News) reported, if you do not let airport security do the full body x-ray, they make you do a full body pat down. Some choice! Obama and Homeland Security can pat themselves d … Read More […]

  65. Another aspect is cost: What costs more

    o The time and money spent on security (staff, machinery, whatnot) and lost by the passengers? Further, passenger inconvenience, annoyance, nail-clippers confiscated, …

    o Terrorist attacks?

    I am honestly not certain, but I do find it disturbing that this central question is not raised more often. A few of the issues involved in judging the question:

    o 9/11-style events are extremely expensive and carry a horrifying cost in lifes; however, remove 9/11 from the equation, and we look at comparatively low costs per year in a US context.

    o The cost of security measures is accumulated, day in and day out, person by person, in doses that may seem small on a casual glance, but which are enormous when we look at the aggregated numbers.

    o To what degree do security measures prevent attacks? (Would we have a 9/11 every now and then without them, or would things progress more or less as before?) This with regard to both attempts made (deterring effect) and attempts successful.

    o How hard or easy is it to circumvent security? (I have heard claimed, and seen some signs, that the security measures are more for show than anything else. Also compare with copy-protection on DVDs: Major PITA for customers; minor inconvenience for the commercial pirates.)

    o What other means to cause horrifying damage is there that are not prevented? (Say driving a truck loaded with C4 into the garage of a sky scraper or onto the parking deck of a big ocean liner, and detonating it at the worst possible moment.)

    o Are there other situations (e.g. living in an earthquake-prone area) that carries a similar cost and risk of loss of life—without preventative measures being taken.

  66. I have a medical issue that requires that I do not go through a scanner at the airport, and a job that requires that I travel via air once or twice monthly. That’s not counting when I travel via air for pleasure.

    So, my credentials in the following comment are that I have been “patted down” at airports around the country approximately 60 times per year for the past few years.

    That stated, my opinion on the scanning is the following:

    1. If you don’t like what’s happening at the airport, not travelling is not going to change the policies. All that will do is put the airlines out of business, and believe me when I tell you that they are not making the decisions behind government security. Write your representatives, write the US gov., gather your neighbors to try to get new initiatives regarding security if you must, but not travelling is not going to hurt anyone except YOU.

    2. Choose the pat down instead of the screening. There are only two impositions on you when opting for this — discomfort and time.

    Discomfort.
    It is disconcerting the first time you do it, but believe me, you get used to it and soon you won’t even care. Get over it, and you won’t have to worry about radiation.

    Time: Wait times at security matter anymore, because you have to be at the airport with your bags checked in a minimum of 45 minutes before flight departure anyway — so what ELSE have you got to do other than wait at the gate? So security waits are not really a time issue after all, but for the curious and for the record, out of approximately 200 pat downs:

    15% of the time, you will come out at the end at the exact same time as your travelling partner who was standing right behind you in line.

    25% of the time, it will take an extra 10 minutes. I’ve never had it take more than this to get the pat down.

    60% of the time, It takes at an extra 5 minutes to do a pat down scan.

    Hope that helps — keep America safe — take the scan!

  67. I have a 4 and 3 year old. Do they have to go through, too? Am I allowed to opt them out when I do? I’m just thinking about how much radiation they’ll be exposed to during their lives. Then again, I don’t want my kids patted down, either. Yikes, Catch 22..

  68. The question comes down to: how much freedom are we willing to trade for our security. And fear seems to be a fairly widespread emotion these days. :(

  69. Dude, chill the f**** out. Honestly, there are worst things out there than a low dosage x-ray machine. like what? second-hand smoke, drug trade, terrorism, ect.

    Honestly, the reason theyre allowing x-rays is because the low dosage is safe and harmless. In order to get the cancer that harvard says you can get, you either need
    1) high dosage
    2) constant moderate dosage
    3) really, REALLY weak body.

    So unless you have number 3, then chill out, and if you do have 3, chances are you wont live pass 1 week anyways… youd be already dead.

  70. Penn & Teller sell metal Bill of Rights. They say after you set off the metal detector, you can have a conversation with your friendly TSA agent.

  71. You shouldn’t be angry at the TSA. You should direct your anger towards radical Muslims who will continue to fail miserably in their jihad. If it wasn’t for radical Islamic groups causing 9/11, then there wouldn’t be a need for this type of security.

  72. This is a tough one. While I’m fine getting a pat down to ensure safety, it’s hard to control who does what. Also – the scanners are only in departures, right? What if a terrorist flies in from another country? (Likely). Nothing is fool proof and these scanners aren’t the right idea.

    Lela London – Fashion Blog and Shoe Blog

  73. oh my god finally someone that agrees with me! They have two types of full body scanners, one type uses low-dose radiation, the other uses something else. Both make images of you naked. I’m serious. They have sample pictures on there website, and on the signs informing you of these. I had to walk through one in Boston Logan airport. It was not fun. The TSA agent who was standing outside of it said “You either have to go through, or have a pat down… and they pat you down alllll oovveerr. It’s just like an x-ray like at the doctors” EXCUSE ME! RADIATION, YOU GET ENOUGH FROM FLYING IN THE FIRST PLACE AND IVE ONLY HAD 3 XRAYS IN MY LIFE two at the orthodontist, and one at the AIRPORT. I almost opted out, the agent said over the walky-talky, annoydly “we have a male opt-out” but then, I gave in and walked through it. She happily said “Cancel that opt-out” They still had to pat down my arm. IM 14, YES I WANT TO DIE BY CARRYING A BOMB WITH ME *sarcasm hand raised* the scan part was bad too, it took a long time for it to be scanned, and then I had to wait INSIDE the machine for the “person on a remote site” to confirm that I didn’t have any metallic items on me. I want to start a petition to get these removed. They are infringing our right to privacy. And what happens to all the images? especially of children and teenagers?

  74. GET THIS…
    radiation from most cell phones can be more harmful
    and you people have your faces glued to that shit for hours

    have you ever felt your phone vibrate in your left pocket only to realize that its in your right?… radiation, its all around you.

    • That has been disproven.

      The fact is that you, and everyone, gets exposed to radiation from everywhere, all the time, in TV, radio, cell phones, and WiFi. But it’s non-ionizing, meaning that it can’t get very far into you and mutate DNA (which is what causes cancer). X-Rays do, though, but the dosages are probably small. They are not trying to kill you or give you cancer.

  75. Curious… My understanding is that these machines have been around since the ’90’s in some form or another so why is this Obama’s fault? I also remember hearing about these machines shortly after 9/11 and if memory serves me right, that was the Bush Jr. era. *shrugs* Either way, no blame needs to be placed anywhere.

    Would I personally go through one of these? Most likely not because I’m actively trying to get pregnant. As this is my decision, I accept that I would most likely be patted down. It’s really not a big deal unless you’ve something to hide.

    If people are so upset about an infringement upon their rights when it comes to ‘opting out’, why are they not complaining about the rights of kids that attend inner city schools? The kids have had to deal with metal detectors, wanding, and pat downs for years in order to avoid violence while trying to gain an education.

  76. X-ray is a no no. For domestic travel, people should take the alternatives like coach or train. For international, unfortunately there is no other way.

  77. Why dont we just nuke the damn middle east and DC and just get it over with and get rid of the excuses these communist bastards use to irritate the livin s*&t out of us!…………………….ah, peace, finally!

  78. First, the machines that do the full body scanners are not X-rays. There is no “radiation” in the sense of nuclear radiation (called ionizing radiation). Instead, it uses high frequency electromagnetics.

    Second, the scanners are a problem for two reasons: i) privacy, and ii) TSA is making it “mandatory”. Their form of “mandatory” is to make opting out so uncomfortable that you will give up your privacy and rather go through the machine.

    • Jason,

      You are wrong about them not being x-rays. I have looked on-line, I have been preached at by experts. They are x-rays. So, you should study it more and rethink your opinion.

      -KW

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  81. I can empathize with you. But in this time of nastiness, take your pat down, or face the radiation.
    As a security contractor, traveling back to the states is a hassle, the x-rays, the opening of bags, etc,… But if it stops one crazy it’s worth it. As an example, the last time I flew out of Attaturk Airport, three bearded, pro-Hezbollah activists were wandering around in cammies, scarves and death to America shirts. Please, usher people to either not traveler to deal with scanners.

  82. Sorry but I think your just a whiny whiny needing something to complain about. Do you know how many times I have been to the hospital and had X-Rays taken of me all over my body? Lot’s of times unfortunately, but I have never gotten cancer from it or anything insane…… not saying it couldn’t ever happen of course…. and do you know how much I use my cellphone….. I should be a zombie from all the radiation that thing puts out.

    Aside from all that. I don’t mind an airport security scanner scanning me and all of the people getting on an airplane with me. I am more afraid of what a terrorist could be carrying on that plane with him than a two second trip through a scanner.

    I think you should place a little more value on your life and the lives boarding that plane with you than your meager fear of these scanners and whatever embarrassment you have of them looking at your body. It’s not like they are getting off on looking at you or anything. They are trying to help protect you.

  83. tell you what. you can stay home and be miserable, I’ll be off in the bahamas, having safely gotten there without being blown up by stupid arab [deleted, unfriendly word – the editor]

  84. I am about as anti-TSA as they come and I fully agree that the choice between the scan and the pat down is completely ridiculous (as is the shoe thing). I have yet to see any evidence that flying is any safer from terrorism now than we were in the ’90s before all these measures were put in place.

    HOWEVER, these machines are not x-rays. They use a totally different technology. Even if they were x-rays, x-rays are ridiculously safe nowadays. The amount of radiation actually needed to produce an image has been brought so low as our technology has improved that you really don’t have all that much to worry about. Unless you are doing your daily commute by air, you really don’t have anything to worry about in terms of health.

    But the privacy issue is a biggy. While these machines are capable of cartoon-izing the figures, many airports aren’t bothering to do it. The pat-down is provided as an alternative if this concerns you. I travel a lot and I’ve never had a pat down last longer than 30-40 seconds (granted, I’m white, which may make quite a bit of difference).

    TSAs are required to have a same-gender person on staff to do your pat-down. If your patter is makes you feel uncomfortable, request that someone else do it. The patting should NOT be gropping. If you are being gropped, please tell someone, make a scene, immediately. There’s no excuse for that.

    As for the bits about Russia, that’s a bit silly. This isn’t anything like what Russians went through. No one is stopping you from travelling, it’s just not as convenient as it used to be. Big whoop.

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  86. People are not happy about the body scanner security systems. We are exposed to radiation every day. We need a solution NOW.

  87. Not only is this invasive, but it’s downright creepy. I would think that if we could put a man on the moon, we could find a better way to secure our country.

  88. Heights of security !! Full object scanners used to be for all the travel baggage but for people too !!! Are we not crossing the limit here ?!!

  89. Love the body scanner or hate it… Life is to short to always be angry at the things we hate but can’t avoid cause bad people make it hard for us good people!!! So have a laugh… Buy a shirt… And wear it to the airport!!! :) http://www.cafepress.com/litmeup

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